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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:13 AM
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Britain 2009 - As a result of the "War on Terror"
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Ballot Boxes are interfered with

Audit trails of how many and who voted go missing

An Opposition MP is raided by Anti Terrorist Police supposedly without the knowledge of the Home Secretary.

The Police can kill innocent people and get away with it

You can be put in prison for 42 days on pure suspicion

You can be put in prison indefinitely on the word of a politician

The State can torture people; it will just be denied.

The behaviour of your children is logged on a State database for their entire lives

Your fingerprints, iris scans and biometrics are held by the State

You do not have the right to remain silent

You are watched on 4 million CCTV cameras

You may not photograph the Police

You do not have the right to protest peacefully

Curfews exist for entire communities

Your travel movements are logged and monitored

Your shopping habits are studied and logged by the State

Your emails and telephone conversations are recorded by the State

Your passport can be withdrawn at the whim of the State

Local Councils can use lie detector tests on you.




A once proud Democracy is now irrevocably weakened because of an unholy alliance to American NeoCons. The trouble with allowing ANY GOVERNMENT to take so much power from the people is that these powers are hardly ever returned. The sad thing for the British public is that they cheered while most of this was being passed to fight off the boogey man of terrorists.

Never Give Up on Human Rights.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:24 AM
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1. The trend to go 'right' has swept across the globe. It's time to turn it back.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:25 AM
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2. Not all from the 'war on terror'
The right to remain silent, for instance, disappeared in the 1994, when the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act allowed a prosecutor in court to draw attention to a suspect's silence - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_silence_in_England_and_Wales . And the electoral stuff is just 'standard' attempts at rigging elections, with no connection to 'terror' (it's got worse because of relaxed rules on postal voting, which have come about because of low election turn-outs). The "curfews for whole communities" is about anti-social behaviour, not 'terror'. And so on.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:38 AM
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4. Almost all can be linked back to terror or some other boogey man.
Britain is becoming a totalitarian state and whilst many of these laws were passed with a noble purpose, having these powers already on the Statue book means that any future Government with less noble aims can easily abuse them.

Most of this was caused by the creation of false boogey men and a knee jerk responses to Daily Mail and Express articles demanding the Government must do something about this.

Britain now has an increasing problem with the rise of the fascist right because a LABOUR Government abused the race card, then went for the biggie when they were contemplating a General Election "British Jobs for British Workers".

As for "standard" attempts at rigging elections THERE should be no such thing.

And this goes beyond "standard" http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/feb/03/snp-glenrothes-byelection
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:10 AM
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6. The Glenrothes story is (a) suspicious (b) a good example where 'terror' isn't involved at all
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:25 AM
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7. I think it is more than suspect.
Marked registers do not "disappear". The By Election was of crucial importance to Gordon Brown because of the rise the SNP. All opinion polls showed a narrow lead for teh SNP. Al exit polls were confirming a too close to call race.

The result comes out - a big Labour victory and no audit trail?

It got lost? In a move?

This is not terror but it is indicative of a Government that has used terror and other boogey men to pass dangerous laws, that no one not even the Liberal Democrats are pledged to overturn and especially not Blair II (Cameron).

Terror remains at the centre of the fear factor, which hides corruption and allows for the "Mother of Democracy" to be complicit in torture.

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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:36 AM
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3. It's 1984 without all the Hoopla. Orwell was right.
And they marched it right in the front door, wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:51 AM
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5. Not much changed then.
The War Against Terror became the War Against Radical Islam, and it was not the British flag that this marched in on; it was the American flag. The US would probably have followed down the same path, but at least you had some protection of a Constitution.
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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:28 AM
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8. For a minute I thought you were....
...talking about the US....

A society becomes totalitarian when its structure becomes flagrantly artificial: that is, when its ruling class has lost its function but succeeds in clinging to power by force or fraud. -- George Orwell


Force AND Fraud...now who would have thunk it in our times?


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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:36 AM
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9. Thank you for that
what a strange global map we have painted for ourselves. Endemic surveillance looks like a cancer on the Earth.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:40 AM
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10. Great map-do you have a link?
Thanks.
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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:49 AM
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11. Had one but lost it...
..Google surveillance or civil rights rank?

More recent map...

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