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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 04:57 PM
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The sources that are claiming the phone call Harman made are the people who taped her...
...I am no fan of Jane, but come on, this is payback by someone, because if there was an alleged call it would never be made public, so the source can claim anything and everything on it and never really get called on it. It's classic--the source doesn't have to prove anything, and now the burden is on Jane to prove it didn't happen. So, who do you trust, Jane, or someone whose job it is to knowingly and illegally wiretap members of Congress?
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:02 PM
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1. had you paid attention
you would know harman WAS NOT illegally wiretapped.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:33 PM
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5. She wasn't tapped at all illegally or otherwise
because Gonzo killed the investigation that included the FISA application to wiretap her. She was actually never tapped at all because the NSA tap where she hung out her ass was a conversation she had with a suspected Israeli agent who was being tapped. As a result of what was learned in that conversation, the FBI wanted to investigate her (including a wiretap on her) and Gonzo killed it (obstruction of justice looks like to me).

This belief that Harmon was illegally wiretapped is just bizzare.

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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:07 PM
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10. indeed
if you have actually read the articles it is bizarre to make such a claim.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:02 PM
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2. I don't know, admittedly, but I sure don't trust Harman...
What a dilemma... Who to trust when you can trust no one (in this instance)? :shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:03 PM
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3. They had a warrant. n/t
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:07 PM
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4. If the rough transcript is accurate she was trying to bribe her way into a chairman position
I dont care to try and excuse that kind of behavior.

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:36 PM
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6. Um.. this woman is on tape saying "this conversation doesn't exist"
and you are defending her. Brilliant, yeah she's actually one of the "good guys" it's not her fault that when she was doing something wrong the government happened to be listening. :eyes:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:37 PM
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7. Have you heard the tape...has anyone here heard the tape?
Talk about brilliant.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:53 PM
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8. Oh please... I never heard Mackris's O'Reilly tape either but I know it exists.
Your sad attempt to protect a corrupt Democrat is commendable but naive.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:18 PM
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14. Harmon vehemantly supports the NSA wiretap program
That kind of Dem we don't need.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 05:56 PM
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9. I don't trust either one of them.
It's true that it's all unattributed hearsay at this point. But Ms Harman has been known to be a proponent of that method herself. Pending somebody divulging some facts, I'm happy to enjoy the show.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:08 PM
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11. if the taped convos really were a lie....she should be suing by now
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:11 PM
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12. The person she was talking to was a suspected Israeli Agent that was
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 06:14 PM
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13. They got her via a warrant on somebody else. It was legal. Jane's conduct
appears to be shady at best. Further than that I won't go, although I'd love to let it rip.

This may indeed be payback, but it's not against Harman. And she deserves to catch flack for it anyway.
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