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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:54 PM
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3:31:41------------ impressive


With full packs and in boots, members of the U.S. Army cross the finish line of the 113th Boston Marathon in Boston Monday, April 20, 2009.
(AP Photo/Winslow Townson)

a full pack weighs anywhere from 40 to 60 pounds. I hope those aren't "'cruit boots" that they have on
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:56 PM
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1. Holy Shit...those rucks plus the boots...
Their feet and their backs have to be very unhappy right about now.

Very Impressive!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:04 PM
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4. my first thought was the feet - oh the Agony of the feet.
gotta be some blisters and ......
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:08 PM
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6. It's amazing how comfortable my Army boots got after a while.
Both the black leathers stateside and the jungle boots in Nam ... fit just right and never one blister.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:18 PM
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8. Loved the fit of those boots. The Jump boots were even better with that
big toe box.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:24 PM
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13. Did you shower in them?
our chief Scout swore by taking a shower in a new pair of leather boots to break them in. From what I saw he didn't buy new ones very often.

We all started getting Hi-Tech boots but our a-hole NCO's put an end to that because there wasn't enough area that we could forget to polish. :eyes:
they also stopped us from wearing Gore-tex jackets because everyone couldn't afford them (they could). So in garrison is was field jackets and out in the field it was Hi-Techs and Gore-tex...what are you going to do fire me??? I used to ask.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:26 PM
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14. .
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:58 PM
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28. Hell even my Chipewa firefighting boots got comfy after a while
They were the same issued to US Airforce Pilots

All it took when I got a new pair was walking on them at home for a week or so, and oh ahhh... they were wearable

After a month they were just like home... or rather seventy two hours continuos use

I think I got ONE blister in ten years... hard run on new boots
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:56 PM
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2. They don't look very sweaty
I would think their clothes would be soaked through
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:03 PM
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3. I call bull shit. I did a 5K in turn outs and an SCBA and it just about
sucked the life out of you. And, it was only around fifty degrees out.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:13 PM
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7. Not arguing just posting this
Firefighter honors fallen in marathon
Friday, May 30, 2008
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/running/article537359.ece

Diving suit marathon runner does it again
Saturday, 9 November, 2002
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2430091.stm

More than five days after the rest of the field and clad in an old fashioned diving suit, Britain's Lloyd Scott has finished the New York marathon.

The former fireman from Rainham in Essex staggered around the course in the 58kg suit in a time of five days and one hour to raise money for cancer charities.

His effort to run "The Slowest New York Marathon" attracted considerable media attention.

Lloyd Scott
Scott has intrigued the US media
Mr Scott caused a similar stir in April when he "ran" the London Marathon in his vintage suit and raised £100,000.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:19 PM
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9. That guy is straight up carazee.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:21 PM
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10. Which one?
the diving gear guy? Yeah a four day clomp-clomp-clomp is crazy

running in fire gear is just after that

I've done three and I take as little weight with me as possible (I have enough as it is)
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:31 PM
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16. Diving gear guy. Whats next, pushing himself around in an oven?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:06 PM
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5. Look like standard issue hot weather boots to me
I get bruises just from carrying the ruck downstairs. I can't imagine running with one.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:23 PM
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11. One thing the military does is get a body into the best shape
it will ever be in. If only it didn't screw up their heads so much in the process.

I've also seen people run it in bunny suits and white tie.

I've just never seen it run in Army issue boots. Even the guy in the bunny suit was wearing running shoes.
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mgc1961 Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:24 PM
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12. I guarantee you they did not run the whole distance.
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 09:31 PM by mgc1961
The may have run the last mile or two to finish with that gun time but not 26.2. It's just not possible to run that fast, for that distance, carrying that much extra weight.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:30 PM
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15. And you are basing your opinion on...?
:shrug:

I walk 5.5 miles every day, usually in boots very similar to what I was issued (Doc Marten model 1460). I recently walked 13 miles in them with no problem.

After 6 months or so combat boots are damned comfortable, but that first month is MURDER.
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mgc1961 Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:34 PM
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17. I've run two marathons. 2000 and 2008.
The last one I finished in 3:31:15.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:35 PM
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18. Have you ever worn combat boots?
:shrug:
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mgc1961 Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:40 PM
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19. No. I don't run in boots. But it's about more than footwear.
Pack, fatigues, boots, that adds significantly to the weight a runner carries and will greatly slow their pace. If I had to guess, I'd think than 4:30 would be a really good time for a fit runner wearing that much stuff.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:46 PM
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22. I agree with that
my last 4 weeks ago was 4:40:04. I was in front of the 4:30 group until I hit a WALL at 21

I am a "Clydesdale"
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mgc1961 Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:00 PM
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29. I was shooting for a Boston qualifying time.
I missed it by 75 seconds. Rats!

I may do some shorter races in the future, but that may have been my last marathon. Too much commitment for a non-competitive runner like me.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:17 PM
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34. Yeah Boston is out of the range
runnersworld has a good article about the truth on the Boston time limit in this month's issue

From what I have heard Boston is actually not all that great-school bused out to sit and wait 2 hours before the race. just not all that great.

There is no way I can qualify for Boston. I could raise money to get in. I have to apply for NYC and hope I don't win the lottery again (can't afford two nights and travel to NYC right now). After the 3rd year you are guaranteed a spot the 4th year-Boston doesn't do that.

The Shamrock is at Va. Beach and it is flat flat flat. If I were looking to qualify that would be the one. This year there was no wind which is a rarity for the Shamrock I am told.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:47 PM
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23. Yeah, I see your point. I carried my daughter for about 2 miles
a few years ago (she was stung on the feet by jellyfish), and she weighed, oh, 30 pounds or so at the time, and I was about ready to give up.

No way I could carry her for 26 miles.
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mgc1961 Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:54 PM
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26. Imagine how fast they'd be without the gear.
They'd be world class indeed and I don't think the Corps would hold back on a great recruiting tool like that.
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ASUliberal Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:44 PM
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20. I could be wrong but I'm calling bullshit...
I run long distance and even 3:31 for me would be extremely challenging. It would be challenging for most people. There is basically no way in hell that I'm going to believe those guys ran it in 3:31 without a legit story. They don't even have race bibs on like everyone else. It all seems fishy.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:45 PM
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21. That is a good point about the bibs
but I have seen people wear them on the back

:shrug:
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ASUliberal Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:47 PM
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24. I've never been in a race that didn't require them to be at the front.
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 09:50 PM by ASUliberal
It's used to identify racers in photos and for times. You can be disqualified if you don't follow procedure. It seems odd that they would go through all that trouble just to not follow one simple rule.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:54 PM
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25. I know but I am just saying that I have seen people with them on the back
more than a few

of course when I see this I usually have "Oh God what did I get myself into...Oh God I could die... Oh god..." running through my brain.

but then I hit the line and look at tail.
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ASUliberal Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:56 PM
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27. It's always a possibility
But that combined with the cartoonish time makes it impossible for me to believe this without a lot of facts to back it up.

Seems to me they just jumped into the shoot and got a quick photo as a joke. Probably just passer byers.
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ASUliberal Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:03 PM
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30. Now I'm really calling bullshit...
http://www.hanscom.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123095467


Talks about how multiple persons from different wings of the armed forces came in around 3:15 to 3:59 with no fatigues or gear.

This all sounds like a crock of shit to me.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:06 PM
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31. I just showed my husband this picture.. he is a marathoner
First thing, these runners have no numbers on.. I am not sure, but we have our doubts at this time that these are actual runners.

This is a race with chips tied to the shoes to get an exact timing.. Probably too small to see in the picture, but looking very close I do not even see a shadow of a chip

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:12 PM
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33. Good point about the chip
I ran the Shamrock 4 weeks ago and they changed to an orange tag (like a luggage tag when flying)

:shrug:
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 10:09 PM
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32. Wow! That's tough!
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