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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 05:09 AM
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On the special prosecutor debate: Of Black Holes and Radio Silence
Of Black Holes and Radio Silence
Monday 20 April 2009

by: Elizabeth de la Vega, t r u t h o u t | Perspective

A former prosecutor examines the special prosecutor debate.

There is no doubt that sometime in 2002 - if not before - Bush administration officials and their lawyers began orchestrating a torture campaign, which they calculatedly attempted to justify through specious legal memos. They continued to abuse prisoners, and to conceal that mistreatment from Congress and the public, through at least 2008. In all of this conduct, they have committed grave crimes for which they must be held accountable. I believe this to be a national imperative of the highest order. I have pored over every available book and report about torture, disturbing as they are, and I have read the lurid facts and twisted legal reasoning laid out in the Office of Legal Counsel torture memos just released by the White House. I am increasingly outraged by the day, disgusted by years of inaction, and impatient for results. Consequently, I would like nothing more than to join with so many friends and associates whom I respect in calling for immediate appointment of a special prosecutor.

Unfortunately, however, I can't do it. Not yet. We must have a prosecution eventually, but we are not legally required to publicly initiate it now and we should not, as justifiable as it is. I'm not concerned about political fallout. What's good or bad for either party has no legitimate place in this calculus. My sole consideration is litigation strategy: I want us to succeed. And our best hope of doing that is to unflinchingly assess - just as any lawyer would do when contemplating choices of action in a case - what we would have tomorrow if we got what we think we want today. We should obviously think twice about pursuing an intermediate goal, however satisfying it may appear, if it would be counterproductive in the long term. There are times when it's smarter to wait before taking a prosecutive step and this is one of them.

I know that what I have to say may not be popular, but the stakes here are too high to ignore "bad facts" - i.e., those that might run counter to our position or the course we've decided to take. So, it's better, I think, for me to tell you what I know to be true about grand jury investigations and the requisites of preparing a criminal case for indictment and trial - even though you might not like to hear it. Then you can make this assessment yourselves.

First, the bottom line: From the perspective of anyone who wants Bush and Cheney and their top aides to be held accountable for their crimes, the designation of some sort of independent prosecutor right now would be the worst possible eventuality. It's a move that has so many downsides - and holds so few real benefits - that I would be more inclined to question President Obama's motives if he appointed a special prosecutor than if he did not. There is a reason why former prosecutor Arlen Specter - a Republican senator from Pennsylvania - has voiced support for a special prosecutor, while former prosecutors Patrick Leahy and Sheldon Whitehouse - Democratic senators from Vermont and Rhode Island, respectively - would prefer a public inquiry.

more...

http://www.truthout.org/042009R
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 05:31 AM
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1. So when is the right time?
In two years the ramp up to the 2012 presidential election will be well under way- They won't do it then.
It will be off the table for 2 more years. If Obama is re-elected? What if he's not? It won't happen at all.

I understand her argument. What I see is the guilty go free.

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 06:21 AM
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2. Why do we keep thinking that we must take care of our own? There are other countries
that would be more than willing to administer justice to our high profile war criminals.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 06:48 AM
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3.  Outstanding Read..please link to above Truth Out Article..nt
Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 06:56 AM by Stuart G
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:20 AM
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4. David Swanson's response to Elizabeth de la Vega:
via Mark Crispin Miller blog:

Response to Elizabeth de la Vega: Disagreement with a Friend and a Hero

By David Swanson

1. If we do not extend the statutes of limitations, the careful and
considered delay will be immunity

2. The Senate as a whole will never ever approve any useful
investigation except in committees, but
it might convict following an impeachment that changes public awareness

3. Congressional hearings produce relatively little

4. Congress should extend the statutes of limitations, bust the media
monopolies to produce more reporting, and reissue and enforce the
outstanding subpoenas into which lots of careful work went over the
past 2 years

5. Leahy joined the DOJ in pushing a commission as a substitute, not
as a first step, and anything
like that begun before a special prosecutor is begun will be treated
as a substitute

6. Impeaching Bybee should begin at once

7. A House select committee looking into restoring Congressional
power and restricting
presidential should begin at once or after a prosecution begins, but
Conyers' or Leahy's proposal
for a commission created by both houses will not go anywhere.

8. House and Senate committees should hold hearings, including to
reissue all the outstanding subpeonas.

9. I just don't want a hearing begun that is seen as a substitute for
enforcing laws, and I don't see
an argument for delaying enforcing laws.

10. Betsy knows the law and means well and I'm open to being
convinced by her, but haven't been yet. And I won't be unless the
problem of statutes of limitations is addressed at a minimum.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 05:27 AM
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5. I thank the universe daily for David Swanson!
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