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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 09:00 AM
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Darth Cheney Wants An Honest Debate
http://www.pubrecord.org/torture/848-cheney-says-torture-was-a-success-wants-memos-released-to-prove-it.html



Cheney Says Torture Was A 'Success,' Wants Memos Released To Prove It
Written by Jason Leopold
Monday, 20 April 2009 17:14
By Jason Leopold

Former Vice President Dick Cheney challenged President Obama Monday to release top-secret CIA memos that allegedly states the torture of prisoners was an intelligence “success.” Last December, Cheney admitted in numerous interviews before he left office that he personally approved the waterboarding of three “high-value” detainees and the “enhanced interrogation” of 33 other prisoners.

In a wide-ranging interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, Cheney defended the Bush administration's torture program and claimed that it saved American lives. He criticized Obama’s decision to release four “torture”memos last week because Obama “didn't put out the memos that showed the success of the effort."

“There are reports that show specifically what we gained as a result of this activity,” Cheney said. “They have not been declassified. I formally asked that they be declassified now.

“I haven't announced this up until now, I haven't talked about it, but I know specifically of reports that I read, that I saw that lay out what we learned through the interrogation process and what the consequences were for the country.

“And I've now formally asked the CIA to take steps to declassify those memos so we can lay them out there and the American people have a chance to see what we obtained and what we learned and how good the intelligence was. If we’re going to have this debate, let’s have an honest debate.”
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 09:08 AM
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1. FUCK NO!
We/Our side didnt get one over the past 8 years. Also you cant debate truth, you debate opinions. Simulated drowning is torture: truth, slamming a person against the wall (oh, with a rolled towel around the neck to prevent injury, puke) in order to incite terror is torture:truth. Whether or not these memos that reported what Cheney and crew did should have been released is not up for debate, they dont deserve it. We as a public, over the media, did not debate whether the use of torture was ok, so therefore they get no debate.

Its like taking your parents car when you were young. If you would have talked to them, got their opinion on the matter you could have made a much more informed decision. While you would have taken it any way, taking it without discussion land you squarely in the wrong, leaving you lacking excuse.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 09:09 AM
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2. "Honest" and "Cheney" don't belong in the same solar system
never mind the same sentence.

And maybe he feels it's "safe" to say this because Obama says he's not going to prosecute anyone. But that's NOT what our Attorney General have said, so I suggest he tread carefully.

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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 09:19 AM
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3. maybe he should be waterboarded
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 09:21 AM
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4. Darth should be tortured and then perhaps he could weigh in on how successful it is.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 09:24 AM
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5. And I'm very sure such memos do exist. They were specially created to CYA.
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 09:28 AM
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6. How about you turn over your papers and emails first?
Honestly!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 09:29 AM
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7. Bottom Line: Cheney's worried.
nt

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 09:30 AM
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8. He's bluffing and Obama should call him on it.
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