Just for a chuckle: from "24" message board

[question everything]

I have not been there for ages but the recent shocking twists sent me there:

http://forums.prospero.com/fox24/messages/?msg=143986.1

Posted by durobi

I think this show is one of the best on TV. However I can no longer enjoy it because of the bogus environmental messages and the recent rant by Janeane Garafalo claiming any one who attennded a tea party is a racist bigot.

Too bad ,I really enjoyed the entertainment but can no longer tolerate the left leaning messages .

Why actors believe themselves to be experts in all other areas is beyond my comprehension. So I bid farewell to 24.

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Hey, dumb dude: Garofalo has been a political activist way before she joined 24. I suspect that for many she is known more for her political activism - yes, very much liberal - than for her acting career.

[Arkana]

1. I wonder if he knew that Kiefer Sutherland is *SHOCK!* a liberal

and has spoken against torture too.

[cascadiance]

4. And folks should rent out FTA to check out Kiefer's father...

who in the final speech of the film would rival Che Guevarra in his "revolutionary" messages...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HlkgPCgU7g

I'm sure Kiefer's well aware of his father's stances on many things.

[gula]

25. And his grandfather, Tommy Douglas, who introduced Medicare to Canada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas

[cascadiance]

17. Kiefer did an ad for the documentary channel where he praised Michael Moore's work too...

... a while back, or at least acknowledged it as helping to bring forth the documentary format as a more visible entity to the American audience.

[lpbk2713]

2. A Shittohead, no doubt.

Parroting the latest vile spew from OxyRush or perhaps Han-nutty.

[redqueen]

3. That show is still on?

Wow.

[question everything]

9. Yes, one of the best season, and the villain is a Blackwater

type of private army where the founder says that "in the previous administration" he used to be in the Oval Office once a month. The current president - a woman, a former Senator - has been trying to restore our country to the good that it used to be and lamented the fact that previously we "outsourced" so many functions to that private military.

Of course, there are five more episodes left so things could change. That Blackwater-type organization may yet be a tool in the hands of other evil doers. Won't surprise me to see a Cheney look alike snarling.

[Mike Daniels]

18. In this season "things aren't always what they seem" really rings true

I'll give the writers this much...as out there as the plot is they seem to have story-boarded this one from front to back before the season started.

Every little twist has some sort of "support" that keeps the plot from crashing into "where the hell did that come from?".

Perhaps the strike gave the writers more time to get a plot together this year whereas last year they seemed to be making it up as they went along.

[spoony]

5. "bogus environmental messages"?

I don't watch 24, can anyone distill what this person is talking about? I imagine someone on screen throwing a milk jug into a recycling bin and some RWer deciding never to watch again.

[cascadiance]

6. There are a lot of PR spots that talk about global warming in the breaks...

Tony Almeda did one last night. Chloe did one I think a week ago.

They ask people to do their part to face the one certain mess our world is facing and to help fight global warming.

[spoony]

15. How offensive! lol

One of the most confusing RW stances is this visceral pushback against anything even suggesting we should try to be greener. I mean I get that corporate types that don't want to change their ways, but their middle class foot soldiers don't make sense. Do they LIKE dirty air and water? You'd think it would be an area people could agree on.

[BR_Parkway]

16. You are so right about how passionately they talk about it - finally asked

one guy why he acted like that - If I was wrong the way he claimed, he could just laugh about it - but if he was wrong like I claimed, we both die

Never would answer that question - guess it's because OxyRush hadn't provided the answer yet.

But yeah, I wish some more folks would be as strongly pro-climate action as some of those against it are.

[question everything]

20. Right. This same idiot who started the thread

and to credit others on the message board who laughed him off, later returned with this gem

"One of the biggest reasons our economy is in the bucket is because we can no longer produce or build anything due to restrictions imposed by the EPA and the Endangered Species Act. These Two items have done more harm to this country than any foreign power could ever hope to achieve."

Yes, there are freepers there but, it appears, a mot more adults there.

[soleft]

7. I always think of her as a stand up comedian who acts

and since Bush the regime began an activist.

[cascadiance]

12. It will be interesting to hear her talk about how she feels the show deals with torture...

... after the season is over, and what lead her to be a part of it.

The torture stuff still is in the show a lot, but it's hard to see a resolution yet as to whether it's judged as a "good" or a "bad" method yet. I think the remaining episodes might give us more explanation of what the show producer's current stances on it are. I'll be interested to see how they resolve the season, and perhaps if one of the climate change PR spots can be replaced with someone like Kiefer at the end saying that 24 is "fiction" and therefore isn't always about the way real events unfold using creative license to fit plot elements in a 24 hour period, and therefore the torture parts of the show should be taken with a grain of salt...

[droidamus2]

8. Why?

Why is it that people always bring out the 'why do actors think they know all about X?'? Not that all actors are college educated, many are, but that definitely does not make them uninformed. This idea that your an actor, comedian or even sports star and you don't know anything but acting, comedy or sports is ridiculous. Many of these people are very well informed and have studied those subjects that interest them. It's funny that I have also heard people complain the '24' is too right wing with all the torture and middle eastern bad guys. I guess you can't please everybody.

[question everything]

11. Depends. If you are a right winger like Reagan

you can do or say whatever you want. But if you do not check with the Limpdick before you express an opinion, you are not entitled to one.

Besides, actors are citizens, too, and with everyone with a camera can send questions to Presidential candidates, why should actors be banned?

[Gman]

10. But Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent are OK

go figure.

[geckosfeet]

13. 24. Gawd help us all. These $uckwads think it's real.

[Dollface]

14. Thats the same reason I can't watch Charleton Heston movies or Chuck Norris. No wait, he just sucks.

Well that must seriously confuse the right-wing's "24 as reality" torture message. I've never seen the show but I am amused that someone thought to add Janeane Garafalo to the cast. Now I may have to watch. And wasn't Janeane's rant on Olbermann? Now I'm confused.

[question everything]

22. And why I no longer watch Gary Cooper

Once I found out that he was a "friendly" witness before the House Un-American Activities Committee

[Dollface]

23. oh SNAP! Not Gary Cooper. Now I am sad.

[Canuckistanian]

27. And he starred in "The Fountainhead"

The absolute WORST movie I've ever seen.

A solid 1 1/2 hours of Ayn Rand bullshit.

[johnnie]

19. Why actors believe themselves to be experts in all other areas is beyond my comprehension.

And yet they listen to Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly and all the other actors that pass themselves off as journalists.

[mudesi]

21. 24 Is Easily The Dumbest Show On TV, Yet I Can't Stop Watching It!

The first half of the first season was actually good. The rest of them have sucked ever since. (That includes the second half of the first season, which sucked)

I don't know why I watch it. Perhaps for the comedy value. Cause this ain't no drama.

[damntexdem]

24. Yeah, teabagging doesn't necessarily mean one is a racist bigot -- just a bigoted idiot.

Go Janeane!!!

[Robbins]

26. 24

In the episodes after the writers strike with the right wing co creater gone you can tell a difference In things.Earlier they would
never have had episodes where jack bauer was arrested for torturing a suspect.They showed that torturing doesn't always work to evildoers(of course they have never really done showing torturung Innocent people who will say what they want to hear)

Not all of the 24 writers are right wingers why else could you have a heroic Democratic president(Denis Haysbert mentioned he played
Palmer as a cross beteen Carter,Clinton,and Powell) a Nixon/Bush Like President,and now a Blackwater like group.

The female President probally started out as their version of Hillary.It was back In 2007 when they came up with having a female
president.

It IS funny how ring wingers have prasied 24 when it's star Is not a poster child for their causes and has made It clear he Is
advocate for real life torture and comes from a Liberal family.Donald sutherland,although he gets cast as villians,Is a liberal and
antiwar supoorter,and Kiefer's mother's side of his family was Involved In Liberal politics In Canada.

It should be noted 24 Is now under the guidance of Howard Gordon,a admited Liberal Democratic,and veteran of shows Beauty and the
Beast,The x-files,Buffy The Vampire Slayer,and Angel.Shows that would not be favorates of right wingers.

[question everything]

28. Yes, it appeared that the program benefitted from the writers strike

I think that the last season was the worst.

Also, we've had a regime change in this country, too, where a V.P. no longer goes around shooting someone in the face and that victim then apologizes!

No doubt, the presence of "David Palmer" showed many voters that a black president is not just possible, but preferable. And, one hope, the same will be with a woman president after this current season.

[and-justice-for-all]

29. That show never interest me at all...

FRINGE, however, I do like. I loved the X-Files, so it's complimentary...