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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 03:37 PM
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i'd like to see dick cheney's face when he reads this....
Obama leaves door open to Bush officials' prosecution


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama on Tuesday left open the possibility of criminal prosecution for Bush administration officials who drew up the legal basis for interrogation techniques that many view as torture.

Obama said it will be up to Attorney General Eric Holder to decide whether or not to prosecute the former officials.

"With respect to those who formulated those legal decisions, I would say that is going to be more a decision for the attorney general within the parameter of various laws, and I don't want to prejudge that," Obama said during a meeting with Jordan's King Abdullah at the White House.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/21/obama.memos/index.html
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 03:43 PM
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1. Oh yeah
:evilgrin:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 03:43 PM
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2. I have NO DESIRE EVER to see that b*t**** face.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 03:53 PM
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5. i want to see him in court, then see him in jail.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 04:11 PM
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8. Jail first; then PRISON.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 04:23 PM
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13. Aren't jail and prison the same thing? Anyway he certainly belongs there
He prectically defines the word 'psychopath'.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 04:52 PM
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14. Are you in Britain?
Here, jail (gaol?) is rather temporary, before and during trial; prison is if/when sentenced, AFTER trial.

AND, if he really is psychopath, he prolly shouldn't be imprisoned, but sent to 'crazy house!'
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:04 AM
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16. Yep, I'm in Britain
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 06:04 AM by LeftishBrit
here jail/gaol and prison are used synonymously.

As psychopaths do not seem to benefit from any known psychiatric treatment, the mental hospitals here usually won't have them, so they do end up in prison - though there are some places like Broadmoor that take the more extreme variety of psychopaths and what used to be called 'criminally insane'.
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No More Bushbots Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 03:44 PM
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3. Screw Cheney. I want to see the look on the faces of the Obama bashers
Now they will have to find something else to piss, moan, whine, and complain about.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 03:52 PM
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4. Do I hear ambulance sirens???? Heading towards Cheney's house??..
The pressure of this is going to get him. He'll never see a day in court but the alternative is six feet under. Not a nice thing to say I know, but I really hate him, far more than Bush. I hope when he dies the headlines read "The National Dick is Dead.".............
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 03:53 PM
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6. So Obama is promising to overturn the 2006 Military Commissions Act?
Fact Sheet: Military Commissions Act

The Military Commissions Act of 2006 gives the president absolute power to decide who is an enemy of our country and to imprison people indefinitely without charging them with a crime.


Eliminates due process.
This law removes the Constitutional due process right of habeas corpus for persons the president designates as unlawful enemy combatants. It allows our government to continue to hold hundreds of prisoners more than four years without charges, with no end in sight.

Rejects core American values.
Habeas corpus, the basic right to have a court decide if a person is being lawfully imprisoned, is what separates America from other countries. To do away with this American value makes us more like those we are fighting against. It is time to restore due process, defend the Constitution, and protect what makes us Americans.

The last Congress was asleep at the wheel.
The only thing scarier than a government that would take away our basic freedoms is a Congress that would let it happen. Congress must correct that mistake and restore habeas corpus and due process, and define enemy combatants as only those who engage in hostilities against the United States.

Permits coerced evidence.
The act permits convictions based on evidence that was literally beaten out of a witness, or obtained through other abuse by either the federal government or by other countries.

Turns a blind eye to past abuses.
Government officials who authorized or ordered illegal acts of torture and abuse would receive retroactive immunity for their crimes, providing them with a ‘get out of jail free' card.


Makes the president his own judge and jury.
Under the Military Commissions Act, the president has the power to define what is — and what is not — torture and abuse, even though the Geneva Conventions already provide us with a guide.

Congress must fix the Military Commissions Act.
By giving any president the unchallenged power to decide which non-citizen is an enemy of our country — and eliminating habeas corpus due process for them, we allow the government to imprison people indefinitely without charging them with a crime. It is time for Congress to restore due process, defend the Constitution and protect what makes us Americans.


http://www.aclu.org/safefree/detention/29145res20070322.html
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 03:54 PM
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7. maybe Obama will decide bu$h* & cheney are enemies of the country if he has absolute power
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 04:15 PM
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9. Just cause they passed an illegal law (just like the memos authorizing torture)
doesn't make them legal or constitutional. The Military Commissions Act has not been fully tested yet.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 04:21 PM
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11. Let's see how it plays out....
but I afraid that Holder will wait until the issue is out of the headlines before "discovering" that the MCA ties his hands.
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 05:39 PM
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15. Not the President's perogitive
This is exactly the crap that got us here. Presidents do not, and should not be authorized to create law. If Obama files an executive directive, that is only as binding as his term in office. He needs to convince congress to bring the entire issue up and put the reins back on the presidency...
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 04:17 PM
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10. He just passed the buck. It ain't gonna happen.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 04:23 PM
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12. Elizabeth!!





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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 06:06 AM
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17. Bingo
Expect him to croak first.
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