So what does Obama gain by releasing information about the torture, but

[Hannah Bell]

saying he won't prosecute?

Seems he just makes enemies for no payoff.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. He helps his terrorist friends like Bill Ayers and Louis Farrakhan.

He'll release torture memos, but not his birth certificate.

I'm very concerned.

[spartan61]

42. Excuse me, but did you forget your sarcasm icon?

[Thrill]

2. Doing what he said he would do?

Being transparent. Exposing the Bush Administration for what they were.

[FiveGoodMen]

4. Not really good enough if we're going to let them get away with it.

[tabatha]

7. Did you not hear what he said today?

[FiveGoodMen]

28. Apparently, he's backing away from his earlier stance.

Keeping my fingers crossed...

[Thrill]

37. No he's not. If you read his response the first day. He NEVER said the Bush Admin

officials wouldn't be prosecuted. Him and Holder both only said CIA officials. But continue to listen to MSM tell you he backed away. Obama and Holder NEVER said that

[Sebass1271]

8. UR not following your president.. remember

the " i can't do it alone" , i need you...

[FiveGoodMen]

26. I don't have to -- he's supposed to work for me

[Sebass1271]

35. then, don't ask for info if you are not following what he is doing

or saying..

President Obama wants us to support him and his decisions. He was US to take matters and contact our public officials. He can't prosecute, he doesn't work in DJ. The white house is a separate entity. But he did released the memos so we can take matters into our hands and make the JD to do the right thing.

The evidence is outthere. President Obama released them!

[FiveGoodMen]

41. "President Obama wants us to support him and his decisions"

So did Bush.

[Sebass1271]

43. well, you know the difference between them... you decide

[FiveGoodMen]

46. No. I do not have to make a blanket decision to support either one.

(Obviously I didn't support Bush)

You're post is worded more nicely, but it boils down to, "either your with us or..."

No sale.

That's not what America has ever been about.

Nor should it be.

[Hannah Bell]

16. it's not a snark question. i'm seriously asking. in terms of political strategy,

it seems not to have much upside if you're not going to prosecute.

just pisses off the torturers for no good effect.

what's the gain? there should be something, i just can't figure out what.

[Sebass1271]

18. we've told you below... keep reading...

[Sebass1271]

3. like other DUer said, he is playing chess, while we are

playing checkers... he is wayyyyyyyyyyy smarter than us and the rethugs...

Thank GOD!!

[Andy823]

17. I am one of those others.

I think he has a far great plan than we know about, and this may just be a way to get the investigations going, so that later on down the road something can be done. Right now he has a pretty full plate with the economy. When the time is right, I really think a whole lot of things will be put on the front burner, and if the democrats win a real majority in 2010, then I think things will start look different, and more of what he planned on doing before Bush screwed things up and destroying the economy, will get taken care of. If the economy doesn't get better then nothing else is going to matter! Those who are so upset need to just sit back and give the man a chance. Bush took 8 years to make this mess, Obama can't fix it in only 3 months!

[Sebass1271]

20. I love you Andy.. you were one of those others who helped

me open my eyes.. although i always had faith/hope on my president. I knew he believed in the rule of law...

[tabatha]

5. He cannot prosecute.

The AG can prosecute.

[tridim]

6. You mean besides prosecutions of the big fish?

What the hell else do you want?

[Hannah Bell]

19. which big fish?

[Psychic Consortium]

9. First step. Stay tuned. nt

[Toucano]

10. He didn't say he won't prosecute

He said anyone who acted in good faith would not be prosecuted.

That means people who knew what they were doing was wrong could be prosecuted but people who were told by superiors that it was legal would not be prosecuted.

[Hannah Bell]

23. i watched emmanuel say obama didn't believe prosecution of those who

wrote the legal rationales was in order.

that's why i'm asking the question.

[Thrill]

38. How about going by what Obama said the day he released the memos?

He never said no prosecutions for Bush officials

[DevonRex]

11. You need to catch up on today's news.

[Hannah Bell]

24. why don't you tell me?

[DevonRex]

40. President Obama's remarks today:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8360639&mesg_id=8360639

[Sebass1271]

12. and smarter than some of his own supporters.. i must say..

:eyes:

[cali]

13. consider keeping up and educating yourself, hannah.

Obama can't prosecute. he's the president, not the AG, genius. And he can't and shouldn't interfere in JD prosecutions.

[Sebass1271]

15. exactly!. however, he is putting all cards on the table for

AG to find cause without him being involved..

Oh.. i just love the guy.. i really do.. I do i do , i do i do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hannah Bell]

27. i understand that, dear. would it have been clearer if i'd said "the

administration"?

the last i heard was emmanuel saying obama didn't think prosecution of the folks who wrote the rationales was in order. to stephanopholus.

[Ocracoker16]

33. Here is a thread for you

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8360114

[Ocracoker16]

39. here is another GDP link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8360402&mesg_id=8360402

[Hannah Bell]

45. thanks, that's helpful. i hadn't heard the latest.

[babylonsister]

14. Eric Holder will be going for the pay off. Look around. nt

[rucky]

21. You've got a lot of nerve asking a question around here!

i'd help if I knew the answer, but the know-it-alls don't seem to want to share.

[Sebass1271]

25. Not True. DUuers are helful.. ia m sure

one nice duer will tell her the full gossip...: )

[walldude]

22. Obama is not the Justice dept, he can't prosecute and he can't

interfere. He's also not playing fucking chess. This is not some strategy he's planning for the future. HE played this out the best way he could for his administration. He releases the memos. The public gets outraged. Obama must then, according to the wishes of the American people get the justice dept involved. Justice get's involved, sees crimes, starts to prosecute crimes. Obama is not allowed to interfere with the justice dept. Obama gets away with not looking like he's starting a partisan witch hunt, the people get justice, the criminals go to jail and everyone except Rush, Glenn, Sean and Holy Joe are happy.

[Sebass1271]

29. Claps to you , we know that is the plan.. wait, not the plan

we know our president.. He respects the rule of law.. he did say more than once that he couldn't do things alone and that he needed our support. So, for now, we need to write the media, newspapers, congress, white house and make an outcry about this. HE gave us the first sign, we need to complete it for him.

[Hannah Bell]

32. so you're saying he releases the info, has emmanuel go on tv &

say obama doesn't think prosecution of those who wrote the rationales is appropriate - while knowing justice will keep moving on it?

ok, that makes some kind of sense.

[stillcool]

30. I don't know...but here's an email I got back...

from my Congressman...

Your comments expressing support for investigating former President George W. Bush and other officials in his administration have been forwarded to my attention. I appreciate the opportunity to respond.

Please know that the Democratic majority in Congress is doing much in the way of demanding accountability. As a member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, I am actively involved in such matters. As this work continues, we shall let the facts take us where they will, all in the interest of a better government.

Thank you for contacting me. Please feel free to do so regarding any matter of concern to you.

[DearAbby]

31. First of all, It isn't Obama

who will be doing the prosecution, that isn't in the job description of President. That is why there is a separate enity called the Justice Dept. It will be their job to investigate and bring charges if needed.

[Hannah Bell]

34. figure of speech, but thanks for telling me for the - i think 6th? time.

what i already knew, but can't hear the truth too often!

[Ocracoker16]

36. read #33

[MarjorieG]

44. There was a FOIA, and Obama really conlicted on this. He does want to move forward and not a

political dogfight over this, overshadowing our more urgent needs.

Before the outrage, the world does not stop while we decide justice on this one isue.