Goddamn Smokers Always Complainin Bout The Taxes. You're A Smoker? Well Listen The Fuck Up:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

There are PERFECTLY good websites online that you can buy your very own cigs from for a smidgen of the cost, say, like 18 bucks a carton of marlboros DELIVERED. And hey, they're even completely anonymous and refuse to ever give out any information! So no need to complain about taxes shmaxes. Just open your damn web browser :)

www.discount-cigarettes-store.com

[Kittycat]

1. Or quit smoking

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. That's Their Choice And No One Else's. Obviously, Lest I Hit You Over The Head With The Concept,

this thread was for, ya know, like, ummmm, how do you say, ahhhh, smokers who actually still wanted to smoke and stuff.

:dunce:

[Reterr]

13. Nah -anyone can respond to any post on DU

this thread was for, ya know, like, ummmm, how do you say, ahhhh, smokers who actually still wanted to smoke and stuff.
This thread like all others is for anyone who hasn't been banned.

Nice dunce cap however.

[salguine]

72. After years on this site, I used the "ignore" feature for the first time yesterday, and

I'm just going nuts with it. I recommend it! Life's too short.

[ohheckyeah]

37. Wow

how insightful. NOBODY has ever said that before.

[leeroysphitz]

2. Lulz. Fight the power. n/t

[stop the bleeding]

4. Oh good god. I have missed your style/posts. Hello OMC it's been a while since I have been on DU. nt

[panader0]

5. "Goddamn smokers" "Listen the Fuck Up"

I smoke about a pack a week. Not in the house. Usually on the job (outdoors). So I say, you need to chill out. Did you have a bad day? What is your vice (besides being such an angry person)? No vices at all? Wow.

[tammywammy]

7. Did you read his post past the subject?

He was being teasing, and gave a website where smokers could buy cigs cheaper. :)

[panader0]

10. Yeah I read it. I went to the site too. I saw no indication of

sarcasm in the OP.

[tammywammy]

11. It's there

The :)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. Are You Serious?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[panader0]

28. If I'm wrong I apologise.

My girlfriend smokes a pack a day. Salem Light 100's. Here in town they are about 75 bucks a carton. They are listed as unavailable on the website. Once a month we go to Agua Prieta, a Mexican border city. The smokes were $18 a carton with a discount for the second carton. Total: $30.60 for two cartons at the duty free store. (no taxes) So, $150 here, $30.60 in AP. You buy the smokes on this side of the line, carry them into Mexico, turn around and go through Customs. So about four fifths of the cost in this country is taxes.

[bluestateguy]

6. I have a plan that will cut their tobacco taxes down to zero

Quit.

[Better Believe It]

31. It's the hardest addictive drug to quit. As an ex-smoker I know.

So if you have never been addicted to nicotine don't make quiting seem like a simple task.

It isn't.

[ohheckyeah]

39. And the Mr. MOTO award goes to

bluestateguy.

[EFerrari]

8. Goddam us!

Hi there, OMC. Always good to see you on the internets. :)

[bbinacan]

9. Is this site legit?

I noticed the Camels are made in the Ukraine.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. 100% n/t

[bbinacan]

21. Have you bought from them?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

25. I Ain't Admittin To Nuttin...

[tkmorris]

26. Cigarettes from overseas are not the same as US

They do have some of the same brands but the stuff inside is not what you would get here. Is it any good? Depends on who you ask. I don't like them at all and I can tell you that while serving in Italy in the early 90's the locals would pay triple what their cigarettes cost in town for cartons bought on base by US servicemembers (imported from the US). The black market for US cigarettes bought on base was just insane. I knew plenty of sailors who didn't smoke but supplemented their base pay by buying all the cigarettes they were allowed to get for the month and reselling them to locals.

The combination of being in the Ukraine, the shipping costs, and the 2-3 week turnaround make this not worth it to me. YMMV.

You might consider looking into buying an injector machine and loose RYO tobacco. Currently you make make your own, of a comparable or better quality than is found in stores, for about 27.00 per carton including shipping fees (see my link below). You can cut that much further by getting creative with tobacco that is not cut technically for cigarettes. The tax rate on pipe cut for example is about 1/10 what it is on cigarette cut, $2.83 per pound versus $24.78 for cigarette cut. Insane ain't it?

These people are very friendly, have everything you need to start, and ship quite fast. http://www.smokersoutletonline.com/ In addition, you might consider reading this thread, tons of useful info though it is a long read http://forum.ryorevolution.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=729 .

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

30. If You Go To A Reputable Site, They Absolutely Are. Your Bias Is Getting The Better Of You.

The cigs from this site are perfectly legit and practically identical to those you'd get here. Why are you chasing people away from an opportunity to save themselves a ton of money while getting the exact same cigs they smoke?

Sorry bout your bad experiences, but this website is 100% legit and the products are top notch; all for a third or quarter of the price you'd pay here.

[tkmorris]

36. No dude. They are not.

It's not a big conspiracy, or a bias, or anything else. It's just different tobacco. Go check the manufacturer's sites, they readily admit the difference. Did you really believe Marlboro shipped Virginia and Carolina grown tobacco to the Ukraine for local manufacture?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

40. I Already Acknowledged That.

But it's still tobacco, duh.

Crops grown anywhere in a different region will have slight variations in flavor. But these are still high quality smokes manufactured by the real manufacturer and for a quarter of the price. Why scare people away? I find your objections silly.

I can guarantee that 99.9% of all people who order from that site would never notice any real difference in flavor or quality. And as all smokers know, we adapt quickly. Any even slight difference in taste would be unnoticeable by the 2nd or 3rd pack.

These are high quality premium cigarettes of the same brand we get here. They are perfectly legitimate. That's a fact. Are you to claim that smokers in Europe smoke inferior cigarettes to the ones we smoke here? That a european smokin up a marlboro is smokin cheap crap as opposed to the marlboros I'm smokin here? What a crock of crap.

Stop scaring people away. These are hard economic times and people need to save money however they can. For smokers, this is a GREAT site to help assist with that. The cigs and site are more than worth it, and 100% anonymous.

[Adsos Letter]

49. I smoked for 10 years, and had a similar experience in Germany...

Our "Class 6" ration cards allowed us 6 cartons of smokes per month, which were worth their weight on the German black market. Definite difference between German "Marlboro's" and American ones.
This was back in the 70's...

[Genevieve]

52. Marlboros from Italy, London and France

seem the same to me as U.S. Marlboros.

[conscious evolution]

95. Same here

I noticed the difference when I lived in Europe also.

One difference is the nicotine levels.It differs from country to country over there,according to the labeling.

Thanks for the link,OMC.
Will check it out.

[conscious evolution]

96. Same here

I noticed the difference when I lived in Europe also.

One difference is the nicotine levels.It differs from country to country over there,according to the labeling.

Thanks for the link,OMC.
Will check it out.

[MrSlayer]

62. They aren't exactly the same.

Taste is comparable but the smokes themselves are lighter. They don't have the strength of the U.S. version and I notice they don't have the auto die-out chemicals the U.S. smokes have, they burn cleaner.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

75. My Point Is That They Are Still Premium Brand Name Smokes For A Quarter The Price.

The taste is still comparable enough and after 2 packs you notice no difference whatsoever.

[MrSlayer]

80. They are well worth the savings.

But they definitely are lighter than the U.S. product and they do not burn out like the U.S. ones do. My wife has noticed it too. Whatever they treat the tobacco with here they do not treat it with there. I'm thinking this is probably a good thing.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

83. Personally I Didn't Find Them Lighter, At Least From This Site Anyway.

When I get irresponsible and don't reorder in time and buy a pack of locals, i don't even realize I made a change.

[MrSlayer]

86. I just did a bit of googling.

Your standard Marlboro has 16 Tar and 1.1 Nic in the U.S. product and only 10 Tar and .8 Nic in the Ukrainian product. Apparently their regulars are lights and their lights are ultra-lights.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

29. Do Not Let The Above Poster Discourage You.

The cigarettes are of the same quality and as with any crop grown in a different region may have SLIGHTLY different tastes, overall I guarantee you'd notice zero difference. Less than 20 bucks delivered. Same ACTUAL brand, same company, just grown in a different region. You have my 100% satisfaction guarantee. The Marlboros are 100% spot on and I'm sure the camels are too. These are NOT generics. They are made by the same company. Do you think Marlboro only produces marlboros in the US?

Don't let the poster scare you. In today's economy, the money you save will be a godsend. That's why I'm posting it. They are manufactured under the same strict guidelines and are not knockoffs. They're you're very same camels, for a third of the price. Go for it!

[bbinacan]

41. Are you getting a piece of the action?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.:evilgrin:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

45. Nope :o)

I would never take advantage of people like that.

But I know times are tough, and I know smokers are totally getting the shaft. That website is great, and I just figured I'd pass it on since I know for certain they are trustworthy (though the 2-3 week shipping time's a bitch lol)

[bbinacan]

48. Thanks,

I think I'll give them a try. I am toying around with the idea of electronic cigs.

[county worker]

12. I don't smoke but there is a wrong here and buying cheap doesn't fix it.

If you want children to have health care paid for by taxes then be willing to pay the taxes, don't lay them on one group because you think they should stop doing something like smoking!

It is not fair to pile taxes on taxes on a product for a societal good we all agree on. We all need to pay for it!

[bbinacan]

15. As higher taxes cause

more people to quit, then your tax collections go down. Why not tax the hell out of tofu? You know why? Because the fucking politicians can sell it better that way.

Now here's a paradox. My hometown of Raleigh, NC, after imposing water use restrictions, now wants to raise water usage rates by 17% b/c of the revenue they lost from their own mandate. It boggles my mind.

[HillbillyBob]

24. Thank you for that It seems unfair to load up taxes on

what are becoming niche products, then again why not charge taxes on luxury yachts?
Those folks have a lot more $$ than I do. I know I used to work for a company that furnished them. If someone can afford to pay 100,000 per FOOT of length for a boat they can afford a bit more in taxes, since they are pretty much immune from taxes other than fuel tax.
edited to add (hit post not preview I dropped my smoke!)
I planted my own damn organic tobacco. I will quit when I am ready I may buy a few cartons from the posted link until our crop comes in.
Our little organic farm was a tobacco plantation for 270 years.
I ll grow a batch of organic..it might be easier to quit when I can wean off the other chemicals in the process smokes.
I have tried gum, mints, Chantix the effects were so fun, seizures uncontrollable vomiting and D, disorientation to the point of not being able to drive and did nothing to curb the addiction.

[Occulus]

43. Agreed. Further, it is absolute idiocy to fund programs we want and need on the backs of

behaviors we are trying- with some actual success- to eliminate.

I mean, seriously. I can think of little that is dumber, from a budgetary standpoint. The tax revenues from tobacco should have gone only and always to tobacco cessation programs- NOT schools, health care, or anything else we actually need. If we want to eliminate tobacco use, we need to not fund anything of any importance on the taxes generated by tobacco consumption.

Plus, smokers can legitimately say that they're paying above and beyond the taxes paid by nonsmokers for those programs funded, in part, by tobacco taxes. That's a perfect "so go stuff it" argument. It's even not too far a stretch to argue that the children of smokers (if tobacco taxes are funding child health care, in this example) should receive an extra benefit, above and beyond what the children of nonsmokers receive from the same programs because their parents use tobacco and therefore pay more into the program.

And on and on, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

We never should have started paying for necessary programs with tobacco taxes in the first place, be it even 1% of the take from the extra tax dollars smokers pay. I bet the public is just as addicted to those tax dollars as the smoker is to their cigarettes. If you want to prove that wrong, go ahead and try to reduce the tax or redirect the funding. I dare any legislator, with my condescending and self-assured cute little giggle, to try that, and see just how far they get.

[riverdeep]

104. You know, people always want to blame the politicians,

but in a democracy (or quasi-democracy) like ours, we largely get the politicians we deserve, especially at the local level.

It's really a form of evolution. There WERE politicians that acted above board, and told you straight up that they needed to raise your general taxes to fairly pay for this or that (remember Walter Mondale?). And guess what happened to them? They didn't get elected or re-elected. They were eliminated from the ideological politician gene pool. Now, every politician realizes they can't actually tell people the truth, because when they do, they get sent packing, so they lie. If we as a society start electing politicians that treat us like adults, and Obama is a decent start, then we might get somewhere. The combination of money and influence from one direction, and an unwillingness to deal with problems until they reach crisis stage on the other, plays the lions share of the reason why we get so angry at pols.

But the sad fact is they represent us more than we would like. We WANT them to lie to us, we want them to take the easy way out and take the revenue source that is the most low hanging fruit without the political repercussions. Why else would we keep electing these kinds of pols?

[gratuitous]

14. Seems like the perfect tax to me

Cigarette taxes are "voluntary," they pay back a society that suffers so much because of "individual choices" (read: addiction), and lets the corporation off scot-free for marketing and manufacturing a deadly, addictive product. But by golly, keep supporting tobacco company lies, right into an early grave! That'll show everyone! It'll show everyone what a mule-headed dumbass you are to smoke.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

19. ROFLMAO!!!!!

You're a riot! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[5thGenDemocrat]

55. You paying for my health care?

If not, then mind your own business. That goes for the government, too. When they pay for MY health care, THEN they have a right to tell me what I can and cannot do with/to my body.
If someone else's brats need health care, then tax the diapers and the baby formula. Or, even better, do what my parents did -- get married, get a job and pay for some insurance. My mom and dad had five kids and didn't ask the smoking neighbor next door to pay for us. Not even once.
But that's called personal responsibility and it's very unpopular with the do-gooders.
Hey -- here's an idea...why don't we tax self-righteous jerks? Then these brats would have health care and you'd be bankrupt. It's a win-win.
John
Had one daughter. She's graduated from college and married to a great guy who has health insurance. They have two kids, neither of whom cost society a dime. Novel concept, huh?

[gratuitous]

74. Well, if not lung cancer

Then something else from the unrequited bitterness. Goodness! But you keep swallowing little drams of poison day by day. All the bad people will soon drop dead, and then you'll be safe, safe, safe.

[5thGenDemocrat]

87. I like you. You're a nice person.

Let's always be friends.
John
You have a great day now.

[SammyWinstonJack]

98. !

:spray: :thumbsup: :yourock:

[aikoaiko]

16. American Spirit $38/carton. Wow. I'm glad I smoked years ago

...because I couldn't afford it today.

[walldude]

22. Shit with the tax the Spirits are 60 a carton. I had to go to mail order

or I would have had to quit. Which I had every intention of doing till my juvenile sense of fuck you came over me and said "I'll quit when I'm ready not when I'm forced to". Stupid I know but...

[aikoaiko]

34. When I was in my twenties, they reached 20/cartoon and that made me wince with wallet pain

American Spirits were (and probably still are) good smokes.

[merh]

20. And be charged later for failure to pay taxes.

No thank you - The Mississippi State Tax Commission is very powerful and tracks these sort of things. They have their ways.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

23. Nope. It's Impossible. Fear If You Want. But They Can't Track Shit.

They'd need invoices, and this company don't supply them. Ain't no way Mississippi is gonna find ya.

But hey, ya wanna keep on payin out the whazoo for your smokes (if you smoke) then so be it!

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

27. Bless You, and Thanx! K&R. nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

32. It's enough to make me want to take up smoking.

What a bargain. And it's good for you.

[emilyg]

33. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

[G_j]

35. I'm thinking of getting one of these,

cigarette machines,
http://careysmokeshop.stores.yahoo.net/excel.html

I've tried cheaper contraptions, but without success,

[ohheckyeah]

38. Thanks. n/t

[madinmaryland]

42. Are you really THAT naive?

:wtf:

Now that it has been noted on a widely watched message board, I'm sure that Agent Mike has gone into action and will be tracking that sight.

[gamecock]

44. hey OP!

From now on, we're going to charge you four bucks for each glass of water you drink. On top of that, you must be of legal age and have to buy a cup to go along with the water.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

46. Hey Gamecock!

From now on, I hereby order you to actually read the OP before making an ass of yourself! :hi:

[JuniperLea]

47. Contraband is illegal

Just saying. If you are caught with a pack of cigs without the appropriate tax stamp...

Don't believe me? Go show the bottom of your cig pack to the first cop you see... please... go do it now... hunt the cop down... please...

[Mugu]

57. That's why you remove the entire cellophane when you open the pack. n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

59. ROFLMAO!!!!!

[Occam Bandage]

69. Then we should gather up all the cigarettes and throw them into Boston Harbor!

[riverdeep]

105. So is speeding.

The first cop I see will be going 20 mph over. So is weed, I don't smoke tobacco.

Smokers are just an easy target, that's all. When you unfairly pick on one group, they do unfair things right back. How about putting a $2 per hamburger tax on every fast food place? That's probably doing some damage, that's probably a 'sin'. Candy bars, soda, Cheetos-all the junk food an empty calories can be taxed to high heaven because this stuff is contributing to obesity crisis.

[JuniperLea]

108. Eating a burger doesn't harm the guy next to you...

There's no second-hand burger issue.

[BlooInBloo]

50. I would support taxing tofu similarly to smokes. And you can buy it from russia cheap online, too.

[Adsos Letter]

51. Russian Tofu....

I'm not sure I wanna' know how that's made...

[BlooInBloo]

53. Same with their smokes.

[ContinentalOp]

54. In Soviet Russia soybeans milk you. -nt-

[rug]

56. I had a client who always bought his and his wife's cigarettes online.

When they divorced one of the things they fought about was the $8,000 tax bill the state sent them after the seller was audited.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

60. Then They Bought Them In The States.

Online retailers in the US have to report. Overseas don't. The site I listed is 100% anonymous and the couple you mentioned would've had ZERO tax burden because they never would've been exposed.

[rug]

63. Yes, it was from another state.

[vanboggie]

58. No, that's breaking the law

Michigan comes down HARD on people who buy cigs on the internet.

God knows, if I break the law they will hunt me down and make me pay. My name isn't Cheney, so I can't steal tax dollars and get away with it.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

61. Do You Have The Law To Post? I'd Like To See It Please.

[Genevieve]

64. Sucks for Michigan - I found this info; Smokers asked to cough up taxes for Web buys

Hundreds of Michigan residents are getting a big surprise this tax season--hefty tax bills for cigarettes they bought online over the past four years.
The state sent the bills to 553 residents last week after subpoenaing 13 online tobacco shops for names of Michigan customers and their order histories, a Michigan Treasury Department spokesman Caleb Buhs said on Friday. The tax bills are based on information from just one store, and the state expects to collect more names from the others.
Collectively, the people receiving this first round of bills owe the state $1.4 million, an average of $2,500 per person, Buhs said. They have until March 14 to pay.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

76. Exactly. They Are Only For Purchases Within The US. If They Asked The Site I Gave For Names,

they'd get nuttin...

[vanboggie]

81. Here ya go

http://www.michigan.gov/treasury/0,1607,7-121-1755_1963-96676--,00.html

Thanks for trying to inform DU cig addicts of a cheaper place to buy, but I went down that route once and I'm not going there again.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

84. Sucks To Be In Michigan, But Still Impossible To Enforce.

They go after interstate vendors who are required to report. Good luck with their getting the names of people ordering from the site I mentioned.

Either way, maybe michigan residents should proceed with caution. But I think the chance is next to nill of getting caught. It's mainly the importers they look for or the heavy sellers etc.

[5thGenDemocrat]

89. I live in Michigan

I'd just have a friend in Toledo (120 miles from my house) purchase said cigs and pick 'em up while I'm in town for a MudHens game. What else they got that I'm supposed to be skeered of?
John
If they can catch me during the hour and 45 minutes I'm on northbound US-23, then I guess I'm busted. Other than that, Jennifer Granholm and her mobsters can bite my Big Brown Leather Cheerio.

[NNN0LHI]

65. The Marlboro's that are advertised for 18 bucks a carton make me cough up blood so shut the fuck up

And thanks for nothing. I haven't been complaining about the tax increase either.

;-)

Don

[Zavulon]

66. Knock-off cigarettes from Poland.

You should look at the UPC symbols on those packs. You can tell by the numbers that they're not made here.

The "good" (real) cigarettes are sold for twice the prices advertised on those sites in areas like New York, DC and other places where the actual (legal and local) price is still twice the price of the "twice the prices advertised on those sites."

As a "goddamn smoker," I will complain about the taxes any fucking time I want, BTW.

[Zavulon]

68. Bait and switch, too.

Marlboro smokers, check out your page: http://www.discount-cigarettes-store.com/marlboro-usa/ - no matter what type you smoke, they're "temporarily out."

Smoke menthol, say Salems? Well: http://www.discount-cigarettes-store.com/salem/ - they're all temporarily out, and the label is the Euro knock-off style.

Wow, what a great solution this was. :eyes:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

79. Stop Giving False Information.

The link to marlboros is to the USA version, which is expensive. I'm talking about the european version, which is in stock just fine.

http://www.discount-cigarettes-store.com/marlboro/

Why so many are trying from such ignorance to rip this site apart is beyond me. It is posted for the BENEFIT of our community, and the smokes are top notch, no risk, money back guarantee, and 100% legit and confidential. Maybe all you naysayers should just stfu for once and allow people to have something beneficial in their lives. This is a good link, a good site, and a great way for smokers here to save money during these hard times.

[Zavulon]

100. False Information?

Is it so false that it had to be capitalized?

Even if those ARE the links to actual American cigarettes, I knew of that site long before you posted it here and they're always "temporarily" out of anything I'd actually smoke. Oh, and go compare the Salem label on the site to the current one, the one used before that, the one used before that or the one used before that.

Maybe all you people telling others to STFU should STFU yourselves.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

103. Yes, False Information.

Now it is also clear that you let your own personal bitterness get in the way of others being able to enjoy one hell of a deal.

First you say they're knockoff's: They're not. That's a flat out lie.

Then you say marlboros are out of stock: They're not. That's a flat out lie.

Now further down we learn your big ilk is that booooo hoooooo hooooooo, they're always out of stock of the brands you want. Wahhhhhh.

Well here's news for ya pally: The brands I just looked at, with exception to Salem (I'll give ya that one), that are temporarily out of stock, are ones that I've never heard of one goddamn smoker smokin anyway. But the overwhelming majority of people here will find their smokes or a suitable brand for them there that is in stock and at a price at least a third of what they'd pay in the states, for their exact same brand. But you want to act all know it ally and stuff and try and steer them away as if the site is the devil or something. Why? Cause of your own damn bitterness. Well guess what pal; the world don't revolve around you. It's a great link and for the majority of smokers here is a great place for them to try and get cigs at a price they can do a little dance around their floor at. They can't find their obscure brand? Oh well, too bad so sad. No harm done. But still no need to ruin it for others.

Their marlboros are top notch, as are their others. This is a great link for those who DIDN'T know of it before and a great way to save them money. Why you'd be bitter over that is perplexing. Get over yourself.

[Zavulon]

110. Well, that's what I do.

I intentionally go around trying to keep others from saving money. :eyes:

First, I ordered a carton of Salems from those guys because I wanted to test one first before ordering a bunch. They WERE Polish knock-offs. Tasted like mentholated Russian papirosy.

Second, when I said they were out of Marlboros, they were. If they're not now, I don't care - I've already been burned by this site once.

Third: "Well here's news for ya pally?" Give me a fucking break. :eyes: Is that the way you really try to sound convincing?

Fourth: Any bitterness I have is because I was actually burned by the site you so earnestly recommend. If someone comes out ahead with it, fine - I have no objections, couldn't care less - but if I save someone from getting ripped off as I was, I'll consider my posts worthwhile even though they got your panties in such a knot. I'm sure, however, that you've NEVER been burned by anyone, stopped giving them your business and warned others away. That, I'm guessing, is why you think my posts are "perplexing." I am glad, though, that your word-a-day calendar is paying off.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

77. You Are Wrong. They Are Not Knockoffs. They Are Made By Marlboro, Camel, Etc.

They are just made in a different place.

I never said they were made in the US. Hell, my packs come with Ukrainian language on them. But they're premium name brand smokes. At least from the website I gave anyway. Don't talk out of ignorance. Go to the site and learn about them. Hell, order yourself a carton. Then come back and tell me how right I was.

[Zavulon]

101. As I just posted,

I knew of that site long before you posted it. They never have anything I want in stock, and I'm reasonably flexible (I don't just insist on one brand). They're ALWAYS "temporarily" out.

Since you had no idea how long I've known of the site and obviously think you were the one who introduced it to me, it is YOU who were talking out of ignorance. As such, I say to you: don't talk out of ignorance. Physician, heal thyself.

[lucretia54]

67. I had my last cigarette Wednesday night.

:)

[lucretia54]

73. OK, yes I am MISERABLE and I just had to hang out with you smokers for a while!

[Occam Bandage]

70. I don't trust my information with stores that sell things on the dubious side of the law,

but if I were a smoker I'd certainly do this.

[oxygen destroyer]

71. Ohmigod, I haven't been able to find Lucky Strikes anywhere in the country

But there it is, on the site you linked to.

Thanks so much!

[Cid_B]

78. All out of Copenhagen..

bah... I dont pay taxes on it anyways, what do I care?

[K Gardner]

82. Thank you for this info.

[Norquist Nemesis]

85. They seem to be out of stock for all the US brands.

*sniff*

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

93. The Point Of The Site Is Moot If You Went There To Purchase The Ones MADE In The US.

Look on the European list for your Marlboros. They're all there. The US list is just from a reservation or something and not nearly as cost effective. Due to the tightening down of such is probably the reason why they're having trouble getting them. But why go to a foreign site for the reservation cigs? If you want to pay twice the price, just go to a local website.

It's the top list on the left that this OP is talking about. Figured that to be obvious but I guess not.

[joshcryer]

I quit because of the taxes, no bitching here (I can still find it wrong though). e-cigarette are...

...the future though. From what I can tell anyway.

[joshcryer]

88. dupe

dupe

[Sanctified]

90. I am pretty sure buying from these sites is illegal since you are skirting us taxes. n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

94. Hey, It's Up To You To Report The Purchases On Your Taxes If You Want.

From where I sit, what they don't know (and believe me, they DON'T know) won't hurt them.

[joshcryer]

97. That's assuming you even buy them or smoke of course.

;)

[orleans]

91. bookmarking.

so this is what the illinois cigerette sales tax form is for at the back of the tax booklet.

does anyone really fill those things out?

[bridgit]

92. hahahahahaha, I don't see you doing anything near to 'county time'

But, you know, thanks for the heads-up anyway :spray: :rofl:

[timtom]

99. Dear OMC

Thanks for the link. I quit smoking in 1981, but my 21-year-old son smokes. He will be very grateful.

Peace,

The Mighty Metaphysical TimTom

[Cetacea]

102. American Spirit. No price change and 2000 less chemicals

They are going to make out quite well me thinks.

[Echo In Light]

109. Smoked em until I quit 3+ yrs ago

[Zuiderelle]

106. Not true. They DO give out information and you DO get taxed eventually.

Quit smoking. That's the only answer.

[loyalkydem]

107. Hey to the op

There smokers, they don't know any better.