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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:04 PM
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Zelikow jumps ship - on Rachel now
Damn the shit has hit the fan!!!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:05 PM
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1. This is great!!!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:06 PM
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2. No precedent is history
Damn!!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:06 PM
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4. Cheney's probably packing for Dubai.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:58 AM
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26. Is the beach still reeking of sewage?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:06 PM
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3. I know! Who could have imagined
Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 08:07 PM by librechik
that they would fly former VPs into burgeoning careers?

WHY DIDN"T YOU SAY SO THEN< A HOLE!!!!
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:08 PM
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5. An aide to Condi, he put his doubts in a memo, which was then disappeared.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:22 PM
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20. How convenient for him!
Indeed the rats are leaving the ship.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:08 PM
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6. Source Material-- His foreignpolicy.com article from today.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:10 PM
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12. Thanks - great question Rachel
Why didn't you resign?
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:09 PM
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7. What's the frequecy, malaise?
I'm not near a TV.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:10 PM
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10. Don't know
I'm watching on 158. It will be on her website later.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:23 PM
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21. I was asking for a quick summary of what happened
so I could share in the excitement.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:09 PM
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8. well, well, well, well, well, well, well....
well, well, well, well..well..WELL.

get your own ---> :popcorn: I rarely share :popcorn:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:09 PM
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9. I can't believe what I am hearing and seeing
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:17 PM
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16. Yea I wonder what the deal is a PNAC guy turning on Cheney
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:20 PM
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19. Cheney goes under the bus so Condi, Phillp and Bill Krristol can live on
noble sacrifice, i'm sure
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:10 PM
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11. His body language. His vocal pattern. Pretty serious.
He can't soften the blow. It's going to be extremely interesting.

This is not a subjective case. There are laws.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:12 PM
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13. Will appreciate more as it goes.

Thanks.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:12 PM
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14. same exact time!!
State Dept Lawyer: White House Tried To Destroy My Alternative Memo On Torture

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/state_dept_lawyer_white_house_tried_to_destroy_my.php
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:18 PM
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18. His answer to Rachel's last question does not square with
his conclusion:
The underlying absurdity of the administration's position can be summarized this way. Once you get to a substantive compliance analysis for "cruel, inhuman, and degrading" you get the position that the substantive standard is the same as it is in analogous U.S. constitutional law. So the OLC must argue, in effect, that the methods and the conditions of confinement in the CIA program could constitutionally be inflicted on American citizens in a county jail.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:15 PM
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15. keep us informed
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:17 PM
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17. He's still a Republican apologist, however.
If they were destroying copies of the memos, I wonder why he didn't feel a little personally unsafe.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:31 PM
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23. From TPM site..

State Dept Lawyer: White House Tried To Destroy My Alternative Memo On Torture
By Zachary Roth - April 21, 2009, 2:06PM
*****************
The memo I mentioned was highly classified at the time. So any extant copies, or drafts, would only be in an appropriate government safe. Any extant copies at State would be in their archival facilities for top secret papers from my files, or possibly Bellinger's files, or Secretary Rice's files.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/state_dept_lawyer_white_house_tried_to_destroy_my.php
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:31 PM
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22. Reminds me of the sound effect from the Watergate days
drip...drip...drip...

Btw, it was a terrific interview. I love it when Rachel's serious side comes to the forefront. This is one of her great interviews and is takes its place in history.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:47 PM
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24. Dissenter? That's a good laugh - PZ is the ultimate cover-up guy.
Did this guy ever threaten his own priviliged position to dissent or even jump ship to tell the truth? Never.

He's a self-interest bureaucratic yes-man who's now trying to change his image.

This is really rich.

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:52 PM
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25. Please post video links asap!
The one night I opted out of watching Rachael's show!
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