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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:38 AM
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CHENEY Can Now Be Tied-Thru Tenet-To Sessions Of "Excessive & Frivolous" Torture
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 07:44 AM by kpete
Did Cheney Order Up Abu Zubaydah’s 83rd Waterboarding?

We're mighty close to tying Cheney--through just one degree of separation--to "frivolous" torture. And I suspect he's aware of that.


By: emptywheel Wednesday April 22, 2009 5:10 am

McClatchy reports that one of the reasons Khalid Sheikh Mohammed got waterboarded 183 times and Abu Zubaydah got waterboarded 83 times is that Cheney and Rumsfeld refused to believe they had no information on ties between Al Qaeda and Iraq. (h/t Hmmm)


The Bush administration put relentless pressure on interrogators to use harsh methods on detainees in part to find evidence of cooperation between al Qaida and the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's regime, according to a former senior U.S. intelligence official and a former Army psychiatrist.

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A former senior U.S. intelligence official familiar with the interrogation issue said that Cheney and former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld demanded that intelligence agencies and interrogators find evidence of al Qaida-Iraq collaboration.

"There were two reasons why these interrogations were so persistent, and why extreme methods were used," the former senior intelligence official said on condition of anonymity because of the issue's sensitivity.

"The main one is that everyone was worried about some kind of follow-up attack (after 9/11). But for most of 2002 and into 2003, Cheney and Rumsfeld, especially, were also demanding proof of the links between al Qaida and Iraq that (former Iraqi exile leader Ahmed) Chalabi and others had told them were there."


This suggests that when Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded an additional time--perhaps his 83rd--against the judgment of the interrogators working with him directly, the "elements with CIA Headquarters" that ordered up the additional torture were being pushed by Cheney and Rummy (a suggestion JimWhite made here http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/4859 ).
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/the-cia-directors-protecting-themselves/

This is not to say that the interrogation program has worked perfectly. According to the IG Report, the CIA, at least initially, could not always distinguish detainees who had information but were successfully resisting interrogation from those who did not actually have the information. See IG report at 83-85. On at least one occasion, this may have resulted in what might be deemed in retrospect to have been the unnecessary use of enhanced techniques. On that occasion, although the on-scene interrogation team judged Zubaydah to be compliant, elements with CIA Headquarters still believed he was withholding information. See id, at 84. At the direction of CIA Headquarters interrogators, therefore used the waterboard one more time on Zubaydah. See id, at 84-85.
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.......if Cheney can be tied--presumably through Tenet--to waterboarding sessions that even the torturers considered excessive, it sure explains why Tenet got the White House to endorse its torture program in a statement as one of the last things he did as DCI. And it explains why Cheney has been so quick to enter the fray with his torture apologies.

more:
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/22/did-cheney-order-up-abu-zubaydahs-83rd-waterboarding/#more-3996



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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:53 AM
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1. If the dick lives long enough he will go to the cross bar hotel
for a long long stay. There is no one and I mean no one who can defend him with facts and honesty, he's toast. Burnt at that and only he doesn't know it yet.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:56 AM
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2. I think themany appearances of Cheney of late substantiates his
part in torture. He must be scared; he is trying to sell us on the 'benefits' of torture....well,I for one, am not buying what he's selling. Hopefully, we will FINALLY see some justice.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:23 AM
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3. I hate being an I-told-you-so, Dick
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 08:34 AM by rocktivity
but I told you so!

You thought you were in the clear because Obama said he wasn't interested in prosecuting those who followed your orders? He just played you like a grand piano!

:headbang:
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