Waterboarding American style circa 1898

[Postman]

[NightWatcher]

1. a nice pic for those who think we just went bad under bush

[Uncle Joe]

8. We didn't just go bad under Bush, but we definitely took some major steps backward.

The Geneva Convention was supposed to be the U.S. and civilized world coming of age regarding these inhumane practices.

Governments must be held to a higher standard than individuals; in heated combat regarding acceptable norms because rightly or wrongly governments place those individuals in combat and the consequences from governments' decisions and actions effect many more people.

Thus, I believe while an individual (s) committing torture would be an atrocity, for governments to promote or sanction it as policy would be catastrophic in regards to any chance of successful, long term, human, civilized societal evolution taking place.

[Mari333]

2. more on the history of it

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15886834

[SOS]

3. And Vietnam...

[Occam Bandage]

4. The Philippine War is America's first modern conflict, and our first brush

with the ideas of unconventional war. Sad that over a century later, we're still trying to learn the lessons of that war.

[14thColony]

10. In the insugency/guerrilla warfare courses I've taken

the 'Indian Wars,' especially of the 1870s and 1880s, are usually pointed to as the US Army's first experience with a widespread and long-term unconventional war.

[dixiegrrrrl]

5. I had no idea of this or of Viet Nam...K&R with emphasis..

[Mari333]

6. we have been assholes for a longggg time nt

[mmonk]

7. The reason waterboarding is mentioned so much is because

they know the public won't get too excercised over it given it doesn't look as brutal as other forms of torture the general public is unaware of that is going on.

[4_TN_TITANS]

9. I thought for waterboarding to be non-lethal it had to be done on

a head-down incline to keep the water from going into the lungs. These pics appear to be actually drowning, maybe then reviving the prisoner.