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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:14 AM
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C&L VIDEO: Rove, "positively freaking out, frantic, nasty" on Hannity's show regarding torture
VIDEO @ the URL below.

Hearing footsteps: Rove sounds freaked out at notion of torture prosecutions
By David Neiwert Wednesday Apr 22, 2009 8:45am

Karl was positively freaking out yesterday afternoon over the prospect that some of his ex-colleagues at the White House might wind up being prosecuted -- or held responsible publicly -- for helping George W. Bush install a torture regime during his tenure, after President Obama's statement earlier in the day indicating he'd leave the decision up to the Attorney General.

Rove, appearing on Sean Hannity's Fox News show, was particularly frantic -- and when Rove gets frantic, he gets nasty:

Rove: Sure, as long as they've released the limits to which America will go to extract this information, let's share the information that was extracted, and saved America from further attacks. We know, for example -- it's already a part of the public record -- that the interrogation of these high-value targets kept them from being able to attack Los Angeles by flying airplanes into the Liberty tower, the tallest building in Los Angeles, which was one of their plans.

But look, let's step back for a minute. What the Obama administration has done in the last several days is very dangerous. What they've essentially said is, If we have policy disagreements with our predecessors, what we're going to do is we're going to turn ourselves into the moral equivalent of a Latin American country run colonels in mirrored sunglasses. And what we're going to do is prosecute, systematically, the previous administration, or threaten prosecutions against the previous administration, based on policy differences.

Is that what we've come to in this country? That if we have a change in administration from one party to another, that we then use the tools of the government to go systematically after the policy disagreements that we have with the previous administration? Now that may be fine in some little Latin American country that's run by, you know, the latest junta. It may be the way that they do things in Chicago. But that's not the way we do things here in America.


Hmmmm. Last I looked, Chicago was here in America.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/hearing-footsteps-rove-freaks-out
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:18 AM
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1. Calm down Karl....it could get even more personal...
They may come after you?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:18 AM
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2. Rove describes his own policy; that is exactly what he did for the past 10 years.
Just ask DOn Siegelman.....
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:27 AM
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4. Yep
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:43 AM
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12. It may be an ugly little junta but it was our own. n/t
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:18 AM
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3. Still flogging the 'Liberty Tower' scam
From 2006:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/02/10/MNG73H6A5G1.DTL
In his remarks, Bush referred to the West Coast target as "the Liberty Tower," but White House officials said he had meant to say Library Tower. The building, completed in 1989, is 1,018 feet tall and was destroyed by alien invaders in the 1996 movie "Independence Day."

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said Thursday he was blindsided by Bush's announcement of new details about a purported 2002 plot.

"I'm amazed that the president would make this (announcement) on national TV and not inform us of these details through the appropriate channels," he said. "I don't expect a call from the president -- but somebody."
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:34 AM
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7. Yep. Still can't get the freak'n name correct. For a credible threat?
That their torture stopped? Really? You'd at least think a true story would be supported by accurate geographical references.

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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:42 AM
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11. Next on FOX: How Bush saved the Freedom High-rise and the Patriot Superstructure from
attack by the dastardly forces of EVIL!


Pffft, if Bush had known a target was called the "Library Tower," he wouldn't have lifted a finger to protect such an "elitist" place. Book-learnin' is for libruls and liberries are hotbeds of socialism, dontcha know?!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:01 PM
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20. Except for Laura ... she reads in the conservative Lieberries only ... heh heh heh
Glad they are gone ... can't wait until they have to do hard time like we did for those long 8 years!
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:56 AM
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15. Liberty Tower, Nuculur Aspirations, WMDs, Terra, Terra, Terra - all fictional constructs.
"The War on Terra" = "The War on Earth". Why else would we have the horribly misnamed BushCo* environmental policies? Their "War on Terra" was very real, just not the one we were supposed to believe in.

Eh, I could go on all day, but my point is: While they spent much time trying to change the meaning of many words, the words they invented or misused seem to have been even more effective in masking their real intent.

So, if Liberty Tower is fictional and only exists in the NeoCon's tiny, reptilian brains, how can anyone prove there was not, in fact, a Terra-ist plot to destroy it?

Down the rabbit hole with the lot of you!!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:31 AM
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5. see the attempt at framing???
He's repeatedly trying to frame their actions as "policy disagreements".

This is insidious.

"Breaking the law" becomes "policy disagreement."

No, Karl. You, and they, broke the law of the land. That's why justice is coming after you. Not for policy disagreements, but for crimes.

Don't let him get away with this framing.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:33 AM
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6. Their frame: approval of torture was just a "policy difference" with the Obama Admin.
Evil bastards.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:46 AM
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13. He got one thing right. Obama did disclose Bush tactics to the enemy
if you think, as this felon does, that the American people are the enemy.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:01 PM
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17. And, if not the American people
Does Rove seriously think that other nations aren't quite well informed about the extent of the U.S. torture regime? Because, really, the only people on the planet who don't have a pretty good idea of the dimensions (if not the details) of Bush administration depravity are indeed the American people.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:37 AM
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8. smoke, mirrors, and obfuscation....
Rove is brilliant, even when he's desperate. Maybe ESPECIALLY when he's desperate. His characterization of possible torture prosecution as a "policy disagreement" and his comparison of that with Latin American juntas will resonate with many folks, I'm afraid.

The truth of the matter is that the "policy disagreements" concern war crimes and violations of U.S. and international law. If Bush had used the Secret Service as gangsters and spent his time in office robbing banks, the result would be the same-- the incoming Obama administration would have to seek prosecutions over "policy disagreements."

This is typical Rovian obfuscation of the real issues.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:37 AM
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9. I noticed the scumbag didn't mention the legality.... n/t
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:38 AM
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10. karl is a liar, a cheat, a college drop out, and a con man
If he wants to talk so much he needs to under oath in front of a jury ....

btw speaking of safety of CIA agents does Val Plame ring a bell?

policy differences .... you and Gov. Seigleman?


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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:59 AM
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16. What kind of evil intention is attributable to "college dropout" ? nt
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:10 PM
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19. none .... but it goes the make up of the man.
Rush, Beck, & Karl all drop outs or flunk outs ....
and they are telling the guy who finished #1 in his
class @ Harvard where he is wrong?
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:55 AM
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14. why is he not in jail?
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:04 PM
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18. Because they tapped/bribed/blackmailed John Conyers too?
Looks as if the entire US Congress is corrupt. How is this man able to go around on TV without anyone saying anything about him ignoring subpoenas?
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