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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:20 PM Original message |
Police: Death of Freddie Mac's Kellermann "May" Be Suicide |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. There is a legal presumption against suicide until it has been ruled out by |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. There is no doubt in my mind that he was murdered....no doubt |
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ben_jenne (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. MIHOP or LIHOP? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Are you suggesting Barney Frank killed him? |
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ben_jenne (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Makes as much sense as any other goof ball speculation |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. The freepers are saying he was "Vince Fostered" and |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. All suicides are reported as such before the forensic evidence |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:33 PM Original message |
That is the opposite of the truth. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. Don't tell CNN that... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The police also say "no foul play is suspected" when there is no evidence of foul play. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. ...but you can agree that they're strongly... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Inasmuch as someone is dead from hanging and there are no signs of foul play, yes. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Isn't suicide foul play? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
18. I meant that the word "may" is used until there is proof. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. No......... |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. Another hanging? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. If someone has been sedated, then the drug would show up during the forensic investigation. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. There are drugs |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. First, the NSA almost undoubtedly does not have access to those poisons, |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. You're not from Washington, are you? |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I suspect that you wouldn't even have to drug... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. You suspect incorrectly. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. First, they have to say it "may" be suicide, because they haven't done the forensics. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Interesting... |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. He is knowledgeable in the ways of misdirection and obfuscation |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Well, it seems obvious to me that... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. The only way to simulate a hanging is to actually hang someone without them struggling. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. I answer questions directly and provide factual reasoning for my claims. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Wouldn't there be pretty substantial evidence to support whether |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I mentioned it above, but yes. People who are being attacked always try to free themselves. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. weird, the Enron guys had to shoot themselves in the head three or four times to commit suicide. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. That cracked me up and creeped me out deeply at the same time. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
24. Of course, take the simplest answer, which is usually the correct answer |
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