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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:13 PM Original message |
Another Pit Bull mauling and killing of an 11 month old boy...too sad! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. does it get any more horrible. the further i read the story |
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Lilyeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. This is soooo horrible. This is the 5th attack story I've heard concerning pitbulls. |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. truly, after having MY miracle baby, I might want to have found a good home for my |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I am so conflicted when I read stories like this.... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Fameous last words for Pit Bull owners. |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
90. Any animal can inflict harm to a child when you get down to it.... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. The problem with Pit Bulls is.... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. When, oh when are these bred-to-attack animals going to be banned |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Why own one? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. That's what my neighbors, who let their pitbulls run free, told me. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
41. gladiator dogs need to be trained and handled properly. they can |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
45. All breeds have it in their makeup to kill a child |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
95. Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read here. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #95 |
103. No, not really |
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bobburgster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
102. Interesting Opinion |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Actually ..... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Well, statistics tell you what to expect from pit bulls. They should be banned. nt |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Which statistics specifically? |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
51. You're not taking my pit bull away!!!!! |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
56. Statistics? Here's what the CDC says |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. I posted the link to that study below |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. I have had pit bulls and I now own a Rottweiler, my second. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I've read Rottweilers only kill humans half as often as pit bulls. |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Rottweilers just have bad raps because of all the media hype |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Pit bulls have bad raps because of all the media hype also |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. i have one of those tiny babies who thinks she is a bull dog... |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. we were introduced to a Rott who used to scare the crap out of me |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. My nephews had sweet Rotts. They actively socialized the dogs |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. Are your Rotties male or female? |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:52 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. My deceased Rottie was a female and my present Rottie is also a female. n/t |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I bet that explains why your Rotts are so gentle |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Not in Border Collies |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. A female dog in heat IS MUCH MORE aggressive then a male |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. No baby should be within reach of any dog. |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. agreed! no animal shold have access to a child without an adult present |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Absolutely |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Your comment that any dog could do XYZ is so on the mark. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. "I would never have a situation where a small child was within reach of any dog" Exactly |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
92. I have a 7 month old and 2 dogs. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
16. Data on humans killed by pit bulls 2006 to 2008. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Information culled from media reports isn't data. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. ah, look, that site is someone promoting breed bans |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
61. Perhaps not but the site also extensively quotes CDC reports |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. The same CDC says....... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. Where's the severely mauled data? Why are pit bulls banned in |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Why are 92 breeds banned/restricted in Italy? |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
18. Irresponsible breeding ruined the pit bull breed. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I think serial killers are victims of their "nature" (mental defectiveness) |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. That's a fair analogy... |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
20. Dachshunds have killed infants, German Shepherds can be trained to attack humans more easily. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. They kill and maim WAY more often. That's why they're banned in so many countries. nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. No, they get the publicity and most records are based on reported accounts. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. they are the most improperly handled dog out there and because of |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
46. I think we should go the way of Italy |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. 66 Human fatalities from 1979-1998 |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
25. Hmm, let's see here, |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Yep those Pomeranians are killers. The stats don't lie. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. "omg pitbull" sells newstime, so they report more on them, then the stats show.....? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. While I agree that any dog can attack, fatal attacks are mostly caused by 2 breeds |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Currently yes, |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Except those stats are shit. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
59. Pits are not a breed, and when those data are based on shaky breed identifications |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
60. Stats are inconclusive, even the stat collectors say so |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
64. It might be telling that |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
35. The story doesn't say the sex of the pitbull |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. From the article - The 2-year-old pit bull's name was Prince. |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I wonder if these idiots would qualify for a Darwin? |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Or just get the dog fixed and don't let any dog unsupervised with little kids |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Unaltered dogs of any breed are more likely to |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Yep, Mick almost escaped the ball snipping due to his herding talent |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
87. Of course |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:09 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Half the pit bull attack articles don't even involve a pit bull |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #49 |
93. Attacks can come out of nowhere sometimes. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
38. It's a tragic, albeit incomplete story. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Yep, I'd never leave either of my dogs alone with a small kid |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
47. Pets often hate new babies. New baby? KEEP THE PET OUTSIDE! |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. Isolating or ignoring the animal can make the problem worse |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. great post -- and dogs on chains are MUCH more likely to bite than those who are not |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. That's also true. Extended fixed point tethering is illegal in this state for that reason. |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
62. ..but Pitbulls are beautiful gentle dogs... you don't understand... |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Just like |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
69. Not surprised. I would be willing to bet that the dog was not spayed and had been bred. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I oppose the banning of them and it's not ridiculous |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. This is the most intentionally obtuse stuff I have read on DU. I think you must be kidding. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. I don't understand it |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. That's pretty dumb. Can you post a link to what you think is your most intelligent post?**** |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. It's not dumb (human fatalities) |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #75 |
91. It's dumb and getting dumber. Here's the difference. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Well, pit bulls really aren't all that big |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #79 |
100. How does one expect a dog to act that is beaten all day? |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
99. Well the guy who was kicking his dog was only creating a |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
73. This video shows what is happening in Pittsburgh with the overbreeding of Pits. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I'm not arguing against that |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #73 |
98. Yes - restrictions on breeding should apply to ALL dogs at this point. |
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ACTION BASTARD (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
78. The more I read about this breed of dog, the more I'm convinced it needs to be |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Well, this has been an intelligent, well-reasoned post |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Well, how much do you actually read about this breed? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. can you define what a pit bull is? how do you know a dog is one? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Its the owners who are the assholes not the dogs |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
97. Remember in the 70's when dobermans were vicious breed du jour? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
86. Pets and young children should not be around babies without immediate supervision. nt |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
89. It sounds more horrible when its a pibull, but really almost any dog can do this. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
101. How come no one ever posts stories about dogs killing children when the dog isn't a "pit bull" |
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