The torture was to justify the Iraq War.

[MrPerson]

Prosecute everyone. Everyone. These people are monsters.

I've never seen such evil in my lifetime.

[Atman]

1. And don't forget, the wiretapping was to blackmail everyone into going along.

You're absolutely correct. These people are criminals of the highest (or is that lowest?) order.

.

[malaise]

2. Evil does not describe these goons

Eight years of bullshit lies.

Time for an investigation from day one starting with 9/11

[stillcool]

3. I've been thinking about that....

but these people weren't even near Iraq, were they? They knew there was no justification to be found to go into Iraq. Plus they tortured there too. These people are just fucked up, egomaniacs, that got their jollies by engaging in the most evil inhumane activities possible. They got no information and continued, and intensified the torture for years.

[MrPerson]

4. The torture was to get false confessions. They didn't want truth.

[stillcool]

7. But they didn't use 'confessions'

if they had anything to back up any assertions about Iraq they would have used it, no? The only thing they had was that Atta guy.

edit:..I just read the article that referenced the official stating this...mea culpa..you were right.

[Generator]

13. Again I know so fucking dumbfounding!

So scary. The truth was known. Iraq wasn't linked to Bin Laden. They knew. They wanted to torture to get lies to justify the means.

[KG]

5. quite so.

[spanone]

6. every death in iraq....unecessary

[HughMoran]

8. True

I didn't really think of this before today, but it absolutely was.

[bagimin]

9. Is this story only being covered

on countdown?

[MrPerson]

10. And Rachel.

[malaise]

11. Suskind up now on Rachel

Damn this is vindication for him.

[Generator]

12. It all just keeps getting more vomit worthy doesn't it?

And some here would ever justify torture-do you not realize that the Cheney/Bush/Rice/Rumsfeld's of the world would torture you too if it gave them what they wanted and they could get away with it? If you had the wrong name? Can you imagine? It would never be admitted to. You would be disappeared.

This country was one terrorist attack away from a South American hell hole style dictatorship. It's not about Abu Zubaydah, it's about how close it gets if we let them get away with it.

[MrPerson]

14. Lets remember the Iraq War was for the defense contractors not oil.

[Fire1]

16. Not for them directly. They happened to be ONE of the

beneficiaries.

[many a good man]

15. That's the number one take-away

SERE procedures were designed to elicit false confessions, NOT to gather intelligence. The cabal need to gin up more evidence to justify the illegal invasion of Iraq. It shows they're not incompetent, just plain evil.

They knew it risked inflaming the enemy. That's what they wanted - permanent state of war.

And don't think they were trying to hide it. They also know a government that tortures makes the citizens more compliant.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Unfortunately I have... but wait

the same crew was responsible for those horrors too

Central America and Iran contra

I guess tonight sleep will be hard to come by as memories of what was done to people by Salvadoran and Nicaraguan troops working for us flood back... and I only got to hear it from them...

Not experience it

Damn it, they need to be prosecuted if we are to stop this circle of state violence