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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:23 AM
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FBI Director Mueller-Re: BUSHCO's 'Torture Works' Claim: "I don’t believe that has been the case"
But if a strong case emerges that the Bush administration authorized torture and got nothing but prisoners’ desperate fabrications in return, that will tarnish what Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney have claimed as their greatest achievement: preventing new attacks after Sept. 11, 2001.

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In an interview with Vanity Fair last year, the F.B.I. director since 2001, Robert S. Mueller III, was asked whether any attacks had been disrupted because of intelligence obtained through the coercive methods. “I don’t believe that has been the case,” Mr. Mueller said. (A spokesman for Mr. Mueller, John Miller, said on Tuesday, “The quote is accurate.”)

That assessment stands in sharp contrast to many assertions by Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who on Fox News on Sunday said of the methods: “They did work. They kept us safe for seven years.”

more:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/us/politics/23detain.html
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:30 AM
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1. more more more
get it all out there...
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:33 AM
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2. I can see why Obama is keeping Mueller on as the FBI Director
Good move.

Don
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:41 AM
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3. From the comments:
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Is the efficiency of torture the core question, or is it an attempt to distract people from the fact that it violates the US constitution and the Geneva convention?

If torture is OK because it "works", then what isn't OK? If someone "proves" that ethnic cleansing or human trafficking makes the country safer, shouldn't we go for it?

The line is not whether something "works" or not, the line is the constitution.

— Le Gui, Switzerland
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:54 AM
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5. The efficacy of torture is a distraction used by the Bush people as a justification.
The fact that this justification has no basis in reality needs to be revealed as well as the more substantial legal issues.
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:58 AM
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7. Well Said!!
That needs to be the message disseminated to the American public, loud, clear, and repetitiously.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:38 AM
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9. Genocide reduces global warming if we take that train of thought
Not to mention that it solves unemployment, hunger, water shortages....
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:45 AM
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4. Because
he was right to step out of the way back then and he so wise for that. Viva LA FBI
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:56 AM
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6. Didn't the FBI Walk Out on this whole mess and instruct their agents NOT to get involved? I do
believe I heard that yesterday.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:07 AM
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8. Jack McCaffrey said from the get-go, positive inducements are FAR more effective. nt
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:35 PM
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10. Torture doesn't work, And it's against the law. eom
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