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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:44 AM
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The right-wing already has a spin name for the torture memos.
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 09:45 AM by dem629
"Terror memos."

You know, just to remind people to tap into their fear when evaluating the torture policy.

Just heard some douche-nozzles on Fox using it.

Oh, boy. Here we go.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:46 AM
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1. One of their strenghts. They spin so much they make me dizzy
George Orwell would be proud.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:50 AM
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2. Well correct in the sense that they were allowing the Bushies to become terrorists themselves.
It was advocating that our government use tactics previously reserved for what we would have labelled "terrorists".

It's the "If you can't beat them, join them and then beat them with waterboards" policy
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:03 AM
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3. Quick and effective response: the People actually FIGHTING the War on Terror at the time
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 10:08 AM by Supersedeas
objected to the validity of the Memos: US Navy lawyers, US Army lawyers, US Marine Corp lawyers, US Air Force lawyers, Joint Chief lawyers, FBI lawyers, CITF lawyers -- all of them. Only the chickenhawks in their padded leather chairs, you know the John Yoos of the Bushian World, approved of the techniques.

Doeboys John Yoo and Alberto Gonzo on the frontlines fighting against the application of the Geneva Conventions....and fighting to establish a connection between Iraq and Al Queda (by whatever means despite Geneva) to justify a war of aggression.


p.146 of the Senate Armed Services Committee Report is especially telling, since even AFTER, the memos were rescinded by Jack Goldsmith (a staunch conservative), William Haynes General Counsel to the DoD (Rumsfeld), said "the fact that the Department didn't have that opinion to rely on...didn't mean that Mr. Dell'Orto or somebody....could not concluded that something was legal in the absence of that memo."


But, isn't it curious that despite the Supreme Court decisions, despite the legal opinions of conservatives that overruled Yoo and Bybee, despite the Armed Services committee report that the branches of the Armed Services and the FBI objected to these techniques, despite all that rightwing shills continue to ADVOCATE FOR TORTURE...reasoning that we might need to use these techniques in the future. GENEVA APPLIES -- that is the lesson. It applies now, applies in the theoretical future, and IT APPLIED THEN. The Armed Services knew that, the FBI knew that, conservative with greater integrity than Yoo and Bybee knew that ---

YET, rightwing media/propoganda hacks still don't get it. Why? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:18 AM
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7. even quicker response- Bush Terror Memos. Or NeoCon Terror Memo. Or Republican Terror Memos
the point would be to disabuse the idiots from the notion that using the word "terror" is desirable by linking the word to the Republican party.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:06 AM
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4. except WE are the terrorists- it's a bad choice for them
and it's gonna bite them.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:13 AM
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5. So as long as you're scared and wetting your pants
It's okay to just chuck the Constitution out the window? Okay, thanks Republicans. Now that we know where you stand on governance, we'll know not to put you in charge of anything anymore.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:15 AM
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6. Yeah, and they're rolling out the "24" scenarios
"Why is it OK to kill 3 pirates to save one ship captain, but it's not OK to torture one guy to save 5000 lives?"
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