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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:03 AM
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Megan McCain co-hosting The View right now...
Topics including Twitter and Karl Rove's creepiness.

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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:06 AM
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1. oh god.
I'd just love to know what her opinion on torture is. Let me know if anything interesting happens. Anyone read the "rant" she posted and then deleted that was supposedly against matthew iglesias claiming that she had never had a job? Wonkette screen captured it before she deleted it, it was pretty bad. According to her, her "blog" during the election season was "officially the first blog to cover a political campaign" (or some weird and false declaration like that) and "multi-award winning".
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:13 AM
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2. she's speaking out about torture now- talking abut how it is wrong
and that the fact that America had always rejected torture as being one of the things "that separates us from them"-

But defers to her father...?....

She seems pretty down to earth, and surprisingly candid about how doomed the republican party is-

Interesting- :shrug:



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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:27 AM
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4. that's what I figured she would say
Did she say anything about investigations? She means well in all fairness, but she just strikes me as a bit dim. I'm sure she has good intentions though.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:34 AM
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8. well, she just spoke in favor of the morning after pill-
citing a close friend who needed it- and saying it SHOULD be available.

She didn't mention the investigations- they kind of breezed through that, and it looks like it's headed to the fluff stuff- I have to say I was surprised to hear how ... reasonable....?... she sounded. I didn't expect that.

:hi:
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:39 AM
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11. the RW has been infected by such lunacy
that it is out of the ordinary whenever they sound half way reasonable. She seems likable enough, but I grade her on a curve. I'm still not sure why the media is giving her so much attention, but the View seems like a good place for her.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:37 PM
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32. Exactly..regarding your
first sentence..she's a real oddity in the republicon party.

Wonder if any of them are wondering how they got so heinous? I guess they could look to karl rove and the dickless one.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:07 AM
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17. Me too. She's a likable person but in the wrong party
The republican party cannot be saved. Deal with that and move on, Meghan!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:18 AM
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19. she's a repuke until the gravey train, I mean daddy croaks.
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 11:18 AM by Javaman
then she'll switch parties. bank on it.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:19 AM
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20. Yup
The party is over.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:25 AM
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22. You Think? They said the same thing about the Democratic Party in 2000-2004
No direction, lack of leadership, etc. etc.

Seems like that ended up being wrong. I wouldn't go turning our backs on the GOP yet. They may be in disarray right now, but to call the party dead is to fall into the same trap they did.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:31 AM
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23. Their analysis was bad in 2000-2004.
Being down or being in disarray is not a sign of a collapsing party.

But whats happening to the GOP now sure is. Hasn't happened in our lifetimes. Their coalition has collapsed and cannot be rebuilt because of demographic changes. There aren't enough knuckle-draggers to sustain the "Jesus loves tax cuts and bombs" coalition.

They have to branch out, as McCain says, but that will cost them their base. They are finished.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:42 AM
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25. I'd say keep her GOP. Maybe she can bring a few of the younger rightwing nuts to their senses. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:31 AM
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6. She's against it, and her father is against it, she said.
She said her father cannot bend his knee because of torture.

She said she's pro-life and pro-gay marriage. She's got problems with people in the GOP who are telling her that she shouldn't be part of the party for her beliefs.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:34 AM
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9. I would take her over Elisabeth any day
but that's not saying much.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:20 AM
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21. mclame was only against it until it became a political liability...
Thursday, February 14, 2008

McCain votes for torture

http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2008/02/mccain-votes-for-torture.html
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:18 PM
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29. Well, I don't pretend to know his thinking. All I know is what his daughter said. NT
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:24 AM
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3. kick
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:27 AM
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5. that little girl voice she uses should appeal to repugs
nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:32 AM
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7. ?? She sounds fairly ordinary to me.
Are you maybe thinking of her mother?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:36 AM
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10. she sure doesn't sound like her mother
in her voice, or her responses.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:41 AM
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12. I don't think the young woman sounds infantile, though.
Her mother's voice is softer, from what little I've heard of it.

She sounds like a young adult.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:44 AM
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13. not thinking of her mother. the words she uses are adult and serious


but her voice sounds high school or put another way 'girlie'.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:46 AM
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14. Maybe we have different definitions of what constitutes those terms.
To me, she just sounds like an average young lady of her age and stage.
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:01 AM
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15. Meghan McCain is not too bad
True, it's all relative when it comes to the Repugs. But she's always been polite, seems genuine, and talks reasonably.

On Leno a few weeks before the election, she said she voted for Kerry in 2004, and implicitly said that she hated Dubya for the trash campaign he ran in 2000 against her father. In recent weeks she has highlighted her disdain for the likes of Palin, and vocalized her support for some traditionally liberal values.

If it weren't for her father's position, she'd probably align herself with the Dem party. I think that Jenna Bush would do the same (some say she's a closet liberal, but obviously she can't admit it). This is just more evidence that the Repug party is split between RW nuts and moderates, but the latter are in the minority. Meghan McCain is trying to make herself the face of the moderate wing and give it more prominence.

Dems/libs have treated Meghan McCain with a lot of respect. Too bad her father never showed such class when he made disgusting jokes about Chelsea Clinton.
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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:38 AM
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24. In some ways, she sounds like me approximately 5-6 years ago.
I was in my early 20s, and had never yet taken an interest in politics. I realize now that I had always thought like a Democrat, but had been raised in a Republican household, so I considered myself a Republican, and thought the Democrats were "bad." The failure that was Bush caused me to think about things more deeply, and I realized that I really was never a Republican at all, so I registered as a Democrat, and have been voting ever since.

I wonder if Meghan will come to this conclusion at some point? Granted, given her situation, she is probably already more accustomed to politics than I was, but still...it sounds like a lot of her views are more Democratically-aligned than Republican.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:01 AM
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16. Can they replace the other crazy blonde with her?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:08 AM
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18. I'd be OK with that
Elizabeth is a Hannity like repug, while Meghan is more sensible /articulate.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:43 AM
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26. I think she'd be a better choice than Hasselbeck as the
"conservative" voice. Hasselbeck is a female Hannity.

But Meghan said one thing that surprised me...as though she doesn't know what the term "choice" means as it pertains to reproductive rights.

She said she is pro-life. That's fine. Yet later, in discussing the morning-after pill, she said she thinks it should be the woman's choice, as she accompanied a friend who took it and supported her and thought it was a good choice for her.

That's what the conservatives tend to miss the boat about: it's ALL about having the choice. And many will choose NOT to exercise birth control and/or terminate pregnancies.

That is their Choice.

It's simple.

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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:53 AM
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27. Not me....Hasslebeck makes them ALL look bad...
McCain is TOO likable and seems reasonable.

She would be an asset to the 'pukes.

I'm lobbying to keep HassleBack!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 11:54 AM
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28. LOL.....good point! n/t
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:35 PM
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31. Good point, x 2 nt
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:27 PM
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30. Meghan is likable and makes sense. Too bad she can't cut the strings and just admit she is a Dem.
The Rethug party will never be as moderate as she wants it to be. She is young and will learn in time the Rethugs want no reasonable people in their party. I really have no problem with her.
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