Unarmed and Naked Concert-Goer (Coachella) Tasered by Three Police Officers

[babylonsister]

Unarmed and Naked Concert-Goer Tasered by Three Police Officers


The American Coachella music festival is a culmination of all kinds of crazy – but stunned onlookers couldn’t possibly prepare for the bizarre onslaught of seeing a naked wizard being subdued and tasered by three police officers.

The man, alleged to be in an inebriated state, was confronted by police and progressed to take off his wizards cloak and scarf and strip down to nothing.

After several requests to re-robe from the police, the defiant man protested and was later held down by his face on the grass.

As party-goers gathered in a circle, loudly protesting the progressive arrest, the man was subsequently tasered several times – causing the crowd to shriek.

“The whole world is watching!!!” one of the members of the crowd exclaimed – referring to the fact that the entire incident was being filmed.

The video quickly spread to forums and websites around the world and has raised questions about the aggressive tactics used by police.

Video at link~

http://www.commondreams.org/video/2009/04/23-0

[valerief]

1. More torture tactics from the 24 generation. nt

[MADem]

2. Argument for large butterfly nets. Drinking water like mad--meth?

That guy really shouldn't run around nekkid....not the least that he's hardly Michelangelo's David. That's a rather disturbing figure he cuts.

He's also behaving like a fucking antisocial asshole, disconnected with reality, and inciting the crowd. The police might have done a better job of it, but that guy started out with "Incecent Exposure," "failing to obey the orders of a police officer" and then it went on to "resisting arrest."

My sympathies lie with the police officers on this one. That probably puts me out of step with some here, but oh, well.

[IntravenousDemilo]

8. There's a wall socket. Would you like to borrow a bobby pin? Fun, fun, fun!

Tasers should be banned.

[MercutioATC]

16. Well, the cops COULD have done what was done 20 years ago...

...subdue him using their PR-24s.

Believe me, getting tased is more pleasant than being forcibly subdued with a stick.

[IntravenousDemilo]

22. Or they could go back to basic training, get in shape, and be able to wrestle a naked guy down.

Believe me, a hot, buff cop in uniform is more pleasant to look at than one of those fat thugs in the video.

[MercutioATC]

29. Ever tried it? It's not as easy as it looks.

Again, it's one thing to get them on the ground. It's another to be able to get cuffs on them.

[IntravenousDemilo]

42. What, basic training? I'm not a cop or a soldier, so, no, I've never tried it.

These particular police could certainly use a refresher course.

[Occulus]

69. So a naked, allegedly drunk guy recently dressed like a fuckin' WIZARD is hard to tackle?

whut

I don't buy that for one nanosecond. It's ridiculous on its face.

[Cid_B]

93. Drunk strength is crazy strength....

nt

[Quantess]

106. I just watched the video, and I share your dismay.

Those cops are really out of shape if the three of them couldn't get cuffs on him. Honestly, it looked like they were too fat to reach down to the ground where they had him. Either too fat, or too lazy.

[midnight]

46. Well then, that makes all this abuse much easier to understand.

Thank god the last twenty years have given us improved methods to abuse.

[MADem]

17. Well, like I said--large butterfly nets, perhaps.

My sympathies remain with the cops, even though I don't like tasers, either--I wish there was a net they could deploy to get someone who is acting inappropriately in line.

Meth heads who take their clothes off in public and give the police a load of shit should be banned, too.

The crowd was egging that stupid little fucker on (I can just see his descendants looking up their famiy tree on ANCESTRY.COM years from now, and coming across that fucking putz...oh, the humanity!) and the police were trying and failing to get him to cooperate.

If he was all "meth'd" out, tear gas would probably have only made him madder, and the cops probably feared it might drift and affect the crowd. The guy would not do what they asked, which was put his damn clothes back on. The next step up, without getting lethal, is the taser. It wouldn't have done for them to beat him with their nightsticks.

He didn't have to get the zap. He could have put his clothes on, and he could have stopped resisting arrest. It's not like any of this shit is a surprise. Anyone who hasn't lived in a cave knows how it ends if you give the cops shit like that guy did, and don't follow their orders.

[IntravenousDemilo]

23. I agree with one of the video comments that said the whole crowd should have taken off their clothes

en masse and swarmed the cops. They can't taser everyone.

You might like to also Google "Robert Dziekanski"+RCMP.

[Echo In Light]

37. Why, you speak of heresy and revolution! (psst...I like it!)

[MADem]

52. But the crowd didn't WANT that. They wanted confrontation. They were egging the idiot on.

He was playing to the crowd, high as a kite, throwing his clothes at them, and the crowd was feeding him and cheering him on.

The crowd not only bears some responsibility for the way this thing played out, they also got EXACTLY what they "wanted." They aided and abetted the escalation of the situation with their hooting, cheering and encouraging of that spaced out dipshit, and got the show they craved, and all the while they tut-tutted in rather superior fashion about the police.

They ought to look at their own enthusiasm for a circus before they carp at the cops. Not one person in the crowd tried to tell that guy to settle down or chill out. Not one. They were too busy roaring with glee at the nekkid nitwit.

[omega minimo]

79. That's nothing new

[madeline_con]

115. I'll agree somewhat, but the hair pulling, knee to the gut, and arm

wrenching probably had a lot to do with the victim's attitude. He did become a victim, and it was unnecessary to treat him so brutally. He could have been cuffed and arrested. Period.

[MercutioATC]

3. They TRIED to reason with him. All they wanted was for him to get dressed.

They didn't try to arrest him, they just wanted him to comply with the law.

He repeatedly refused and threw his clothes away. When the officers attempted to restrain him, he resisted.

He got tased.


Anybody who gets drunk at a public event, strips, repeatedly refuses police requests to put some clothes on, and then resists when they attempt to enforce the law should damn well EXPECT to get tased.

[babylonsister]

4. Maybe they should have arrested him instead of tasing him?

Come on. He may have been disturbing the peace at most. Doesn't sound like he was a real threat to anyone.

[MercutioATC]

9. To arrest him, they would have had to restrain him.

He was resisting restraint.

The man was acting in a disorderly manner while breaking the law. He was obviously intoxicated. If the officers had just let him parade around naked, they would be neglecting their duty. Additionally, if the man later harmed himself or another, the police would be civilly liable for not preventing that harm.

[Echo In Light]

12. So why is a naked, subdued man on the ground tasered, and repeatedly....

...since he was already restrained?

Are you a cop?

[MercutioATC]

14. Read Post #13...

...and no, I'm not a cop...but I used to work with law enforcement years ago.

[MADem]

18. On the film, they're trying to arrest him--he's resisting. NT

[babylonsister]

72. 3 cops could have tackled instead of tased. nt

[MADem]

92. They tried to get him to settle down and he wouldn't.

Those officers were surrounded by a goading crowd, who thought the whole evolution was 'just so fucking funny maaaaan' and those police had to maintain positive control of both themselves and their environment. "Tackling" wouldn't achieve that goal, and it's fraught with potential for injury for both parties--the cops don't get paid to be harmed when they don't need to get hurt. They're a municipal asset--the taxpayers have to pay if they get injured in the line of duty, so they try to avoid that happening.

I have no sympathy for that meth'd out idiot, who was given chance after chance to comply with a simple request, and I also found the behavior of the crowd rather thuggish and nasty. Those jerks weren't "peaceful." They were gleefully anticipating a confrontation, they goaded the naked nitwit to escalate his behavior, and they sure got what they wanted.

[BadgerKid]

5. How is getting kneed in the stomach 'enforcing the law'? n/t

[madfloridian]

7. Yes, everyone who doesn't obey quickly enough should be tasered.

:sarcasm:

DU has become the forum to advocate for tasering.

That is sickening.

[MercutioATC]

10. "Quickly enough"? How many times should officers have to try before it's "enough"?

They gave him multiple chances to comply. Hell, they were being cool by not arresting him on the spot and giving him the chance to just put his clothes on and have a good time.

If anything, they were TOO lenient.

[madfloridian]

30. It is ridiculous for them to taser so freely.

Excuse it all you want. Reminds me of the Republicans excusing torture for years.

[MercutioATC]

34. That's the issue I'm getting at. It wasn't "so freely".

They repeatedly tried to reason with him. They let him talk, they let him touch them. They even tried to just hold him and forcibly dress him.

The man consistently resisted. The police had no choice but to take him into custody.

They wrestled him to the ground and the man still resisted...to the point that officers were unable to handcuff him.


How was....after ALL of this...tasing him so they could cuff him "so freely"?

[madfloridian]

44. I get your point. It is be tough, be macho, obey at once or you get tasered.

It's the American culture now.

I understand you support force on a man who was no threat to them.

[IntravenousDemilo]

64. To me it looked as if one of the zaps was at the base of his skull.

It is definitely not OK to send voltage directly into someone's brain, especially for the sake of societal prudery.

[HALO141]

35. I'm not a fan of tazers.

Especially since they've become a compliance tool rather than a less-lethal defensive weapon. Complications can result from the use of tazers but, honestly, not as severe as with other methods like the PR24 or even pepper spray.

Frankly, it took longer than I'd expected for the officers to start trying to effect the arrest. After that it went down hill very quickly. My guess is they deeply resented having to put their hands on him.




Lastly - It should be noted that this is what happens when you put someone (ANYONE) in a position of authority and give them a set of rules they're supposed impose on the rest of society. Republicans think THEIR rules are reasonable. Democrats think THEIR rules are reasonable. Unfortunately they both seem to resort to the same tactics to gain compliance.

When I'M in charge, POWER GOOOOOD! When I'm NOT in charge, POWER BAAAAAD!

[madfloridian]

43. That naked man was really dangerous.

:sarcasm:

[omega minimo]

80. He was a threat to the officers b/c he exposed the fact that some men have teeny tiny wee wees.

[Echo In Light]

102. Hence the XL size of all those trucks/SUVs LOL...suckers

[omega minimo]

107. Who knew?

:shrug: :wow:

[MADem]

20. Quickly enough? The cops were VERY patient with the guy.

He was playing to the crowd, and the crowd was cheering him on.

Did you even watch the video? Those cops tried like hell to defuse the situation. The guy wasn't having it.

[depakid]

33. The question I have is why those big cops wouldn't just handcuff the guy

They're trained in techniques for that sort of deal.

[MADem]

49. Did you not watch the video? They tried to do just that. nt

[depakid]

51. I saw the video- and they looked lazy (or incompentent with their techniques)

exactly the sort of reaction that we've come to expect from tazer equipped cops. Each one of those cops was buff and outweighed that dude by 50 pounds.

[MADem]

53. They looked like they were trying to cuff the guy without breaking his arm. NT

[depakid]

54. Two observations

1. 20 years ago, they wouldn't have been as reasonable to the guy at the outset; and

2. He'd have gotten cuffed just fine without being tazed.

[MADem]

56. He'd have gotten cuffed after he was worked over with those batons.

He might have wound up with a fracture or two before the cuffs went on. He certainly would have been badly bruised at a minimum.

[depakid]

61. Probably just a face plant and a knee in the back

considering that venue.

[omega minimo]

81. 20 years ago the crowd would not have stood back and gawked like it was an episode of Jackass.

[depakid]

87. Probably- but then, there weren't cell phone cameras and tasers

Come to think of it, there probably wouldn't have been cops prowling around inside the concert grounds, either. Things sure have changed.

[omega minimo]

88. The cops were there but had better crowd control skills. And it was before "COPS"

[depakid]

89. I don't know, we used to spark 'em up

and if cops were around, they didn't care. No one inside anywhere I ever was got busted.

Don't recall seeing too many naked dudes- probably wouldn't much have noticed. Topless women, par for the course, and no big deal..

[omega minimo]

90. Most striking in the video was how distant most of the people were. That makes a difference.

There probably are trained police these days who could have handled that situation much better.

[madfloridian]

45. Yes, that naked man was very dangerous.

We can all see that now. He could have harmed those policemen. :eyes:

[MADem]

48. What an idiotic remark.

How about we let that naked guy prance around your child's school? After all, he's not hurting anyone....

Gee, maybe he'll share his meth with the kids!

[madfloridian]

57. That is really ugly to say.

[MADem]

60. It was an idiotic remark. I'm pretty sure those cops would have rather been doing

anything other than dealing with a meth head asshole who threw his clothes at a crowd of shitheads who were egging the moron on. Yet you are way too quick to ascribe mendacity to them, when all they're doing is enforcing the law after they went out of their way to try to get the guy to put his clothes on and calm down. The guy's conduct in public was out of line. The crowd's behavior was pretty antisocial, too--egging the guy on, cheering him, knowing how it was bound to end.

Maybe your idea of a free society includes streets full of naked meth heads--that's not mine. The cops did what they had to do, after trying patiently to get the guy to cooperate.

[madfloridian]

62. You are advocating tasering a naked man though he was not a threat.

An annoyance, yes. Inconvenient, yes.

Not a threat.

You are really vicious sometimes. I think it is time to say bye.

[MADem]

63. I am "advocating" arrest of a high, spaced out asshole who was disturbing the

peace, violating a number of ordinances, and failing to obey the VERY REASONABLE orders of the police officers. How about we send those sorts clowns over to be annoying and inconvenient on your front lawn? You'd be calling nine wun wun on speed dial.

I'm not vicious. You're simplistic and over-eager to find mendacity where none exists. You're like those people in the crowd who share blame for the incident, egging that jerk on to put the police on the spot. Fire up the shit, but don't ever try to be part of the solution and help to defuse the incident. Had even a few people said "Hey man, that's not cool, put your clothes on, calm down" this incident might have ended differently. But no--the "fun" was in the contest between the naked asshole and the cops, with the cops playing a pre-ordained role as the bad guys.

If you can't stand the heat, do get out of the kitchen. You sure won't hurt my feelings.

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[MADem]

108. Wow. That was elucidative. nt

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[Warren Stupidity]

132. It was a multi day music festival.

Full of spaced out people.

[omega minimo]

83. How can someone "throw their clothes at a crowd of shitheads" who are 50 yards away?

:wow: :rofl:

And you don't suppose the cops were "egged on" by the crowd, jeering in the very distant background. They had to show they were tough guy to this little weenie wierdo wizard waggling his wee wee and going on about how fucking "beautiful" everything is.

How could 3 beefy peace officers possibly subdue a drunk peacefully?

[MADem]

114. Didn't watch the film, did ya? Or didn't pay attention to it.

That crowd was not very far away at all. The police had more to worry about than one guy. They had a bunch of jeering troublemakers on all sides.

But then, you are apparently "too cool" and living in lame parody retro counterculture land, where all cops are pigs and idiot meth heads who take their clothes off in public are just free spirits.

Maybe that guy will wander over to your house, take off his clothes and help himself to all your possessions. The cops shouldn't be hassling him for that, though, should they? They shouldn't hurry over to protect your assets. He's just being a free spirit, after all.

Yeah, leave the poor guy alone....! Give him a beer, invite him to dinner!

[omega minimo]

116. Bullshit. This is how you discredit yourself, MADem. Your choice.

Might wanta think about it, with that Skinner thread you're acting all righteous in.

[MADem]

121. You discredit yourself by following me around DU making nasty comments.

I don't pretend to understand your somewhat petulant fixation with me, and I really don't much care.

But do keep it up, if you must. It illustrates what's becoming an all-too-well-known facet of your behavior on this forum.

Edit: spelling.

[omega minimo]

124. you flatter yourself. to discredit another. in an attempt to cover your own behavior. that's fucked.

[MADem]

126. Leave me alone. You're acting like an ass. nt

[omega minimo]

82. What an idiotic remark

from someone who never attended rock concerts

[MADem]

111. How do you that? Answer--you don't.

I was at a rock concert in TX not terribly long ago--no one took their clothes off, and no one had to be tased by the police.

[omega minimo]

117. Let's see: "Recently" "TEXAS" and your usual antagonistic BS, which has not indicated

WHEN OR IF you were ever part of the culture that training of officials could prevent unnecessary public exposure to unecessary force and physical assualt.


:evilfrown:

[MADem]

122. Why don't you stop following me around this board, and get some help for your anger issues? nt

[omega minimo]

123. wow. that's even sicker than anyone might have thought. and didn't answer the question.

:crazy: don't flatter yourself

[MADem]

128. Go AWAY. How many times are you going to keep this up? NT

[Gormy Cuss]

134. They were patient, until one broke out the taser. Then it was zap, zap, zap

like it was transference of frustration on the part of the cop.

Sorry, but they appeared to be squeamish about dealing with him because he was naked and the repeated taser assaults were unnecessary. He wasn't belligerent. The resistance was so weak as to be comical to anyone but an annoyed man with the authority to inflict pain as soon as he could say "resisting arrest."

[Raineyb]

96. I agree.

It never ceases to disgust how many constantly and consistently make excuses for the cops.

Regards

[Canuckistanian]

24. Yes, but there was no step between "he resisted" and "he was tased"

What did cops do before tasers? They used sheer muscle power and creative wrestling moves (that they have to learn in college) to immobilize a perp.

Cops these days reach for that taser FIRST before even CONSIDERING working up a sweat.

We're having a BIG debate in Canada right now about JUST these tactics. And there's an inquiry that's been going on for months about Robert Djekanski, the guy who died in the Vancouver airport.

And recently, our Quebec police just pulled all their tasers because of public concern.

The point is, Tasers are made for extraordinary conditions where you don't want to have to resort to killing someone.

Most of the time, they're NOT used for this reason. Thus you get stupid things like this happeneing.

[Echo In Light]

25. Given the high # of incidents it should be a big debate here in torture-fest US, but of course isn't

[RufusTFirefly]

67. I thought tasers were supposed to be an alternative to shooting someone

Talk about mission creep! This is one sadistic country.

No wonder we torture with impunity and most people don't give a damn.

[omega minimo]

84. and a lot of deaths are resulting from taser misuse.

[bowens43]

26. you have got to be kidding.

there is no defense for this. If these so called 'police officers' couldn't restrain him without resorting to this level of violence their pathetic asses should be thrown off the force.

fucking animals.....

[MercutioATC]

36. People seem to have a bizarre misconception about tasers.

In many departments, the preferred method of subduing a subject who is repeatedly resistant to verbal commands and moderate physical guidance is the use of a taser.

Tasers statistically result in a lesser chance of injury to the officer and the subject than physical restraint.


As I've told many people...it's a lot harder to cuff a resistant person than you think...and there's a distinct chance of injury rolling around trying to cuff somebody who doesn't want to be cuffed. Some people seem to think it's easy. It's not.

[omega minimo]

85. Certainly 3 on 1 helps. This was a 3 day outdoor multistage concert. Those cops need some training.

[omega minimo]

77. Did he have a light saber?

:wtf:

[Raineyb]

99. Maybe they got jealous because the guy's penis was bigger than theirs?

I have no idea what the fuck is going on with the cops these days. But they're bigger thugs than the actual thugs.

Regards

[omega minimo]

100. They had even lighter sabers?

:wow:

[Raineyb]

104. Maybe. Jealousy can be an ugly thing

:rofl:

[omega minimo]

105. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5520831&mesg_id=5524167

[paulsby]

110. a friend of mine, a cop was killed by a naked deranged man

the DOJ did a study we discussed during roll call that shows that naked man type calls are statistically very dangerous, and people who are seen stripping down etc. are statistically amongst the most dangerous of EDP's

and even with 3 cops, it's NOT easy to wrestle a naked man (especially one high on drugs etc.) into handcuffs. there was a rather famous incident of that sort that COPS filmed with philadelphia PD and several cops (including a few obviously buff ones) had immense difficulty getting a naked man into custody.

tasers, while they look bad, put both the officer AND the suspect in a safer position. people get broken bones, sprains, etc. when wrestling and getting involved in a pig pile.

i've been tased twice, as an officer. it sucks, but it's not the end of the world.

the guy was given numerous chances to comply and didn't.

uses of force NEVER look good. taser, or wrestling match. it's not TJ Hooker, where a quick wristie twistie effectively disables a nekkid EDP

[uppityperson]

118. Was he breaking the law by being nude, or just upsetting the sensitive?

Serious question.

[Gormy Cuss]

133. Oh bullshit. Getting naked is not grounds for being hit with a taser multiple times

and neither is the very minor amount of resistance he offered.
EXPECT to get tased? What a sick mentality.

[Echo In Light]

6. And a subdued, naked man lying on the ground needs to be repeatedly tasered because?

[MercutioATC]

13. He was NOT subdued. He was still resisting.

This is a perfect video for people who whine "Why didn't the police just handcuff him?" to see.

Getting somebody on the ground is not nearly as difficult as handcuffing them...and you have to handcuff them if you're going to do anything but spend a couple of hours sitting on them.

[Echo In Light]

19. "This is a perfect video for people who WHINE..."

Says everything I need to know about where you're coming from. And speaks volumes as to why I've always had a FUCK COPS sort of attitude ;)

[MercutioATC]

31. Maybe not perfect...you seem not to have learned anything.

Three officers wrestled the man to the ground, but he kept resisting...to the degree that they couldn't get cuffs on him. How else would you propose they subdue him enough to cuff him?

[Echo In Light]

32. W/o tasering him 3x. That's how.

[MercutioATC]

38. Ok, so you don't have an alternative solution.

You didn't see them trying to do that? It wasn't working.

[Echo In Light]

40. There's no common ground to be found between you & I here, so what's the point?

If three cops can't restrain someone on the ground w/o the use of tasers, then...I guess don't really have anything constructive to add beyond that. Your bias, however, unfortunately reflects a 'protect our own' groupthink that I think sucks up bigtime. But whatever. Arguing online over it doesn't change anything.

[HALO141]

39. That's not an anwer.

Show us. Don't expect others to do what you can't.

[Echo In Light]

41. What I "can't?" And "show us?" WTF are you talking about?

[bowens43]

27. they used EXCESIVE FORCE. Period.; end of strory.

It amazes me when I see people defend this kind of abuse of power.

[babylonsister]

71. Weren't 3 cops involved? Come on. If 3 were around to tase him, they

surely could have wrestled him to the ground and control him.

[omega minimo]

86. THEY COULDN'T CUFF HIM CUZ THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TOUCH HIS ASS..........................

[Politicalboi]

15. If you notice it didn't stop him

He was still squirming and resisting. I don't like the fact of getting tased, but what should they have done? It would have taken 5 or 6 cops just to cuff him.

[Politicalboi]

11. Granted they shouldn't have tased him

But they gave him plenty of chances to put something on. Not everyone wants to see him naked. What could they have done to make this guy behave? They talked nice to him, they allowed him to pat one cop on the shoulder. He resisted arrest. I wouldn't have cared had I seen him but some might. And he was drunk. The cops need something more effective without the chance of dying at their hands. They didn't pull their guns and threaten him or the crowd around them. What else could they have done? If people haven't learned by now that cops do have tasers and will use them are either stupid or too fucking drunk to care. I'm not saying innocent people don't get tased,but they gave him his chance to put clothes on.

[MADem]

21. I don't know if he was drunk--he seemed like he was on something stronger. NT

[madfloridian]

28. I learned that many on DU support tasering when I posted about a 13 year old girl

being tasered in a hallway by a policewoman.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/3954

Oh, boy did I learn.

I see this country changing daily. Tasering was once considered objectionable when used too freely, now it is easily accepted at a Democratic forum.

[BlooInBloo]

58. We agree on this matter, at least.

[Joanne98]

47. TORTURE! Prosecute them ALL!

[NashVegas]

50. Three Cops on One Guy And They Can't Get Him In Handcuffs?

BULLSHIT

These guys are sadists.

[Liberal_in_LA]

65. They were chunky, out of shape cops.

[babylonsister]

74. So that's a good reason to taser someone? Oy. nt

[Liberal_in_LA]

112. No, just explaining why they chose to taser, rather than tackle.

[BlooInBloo]

55. Our state-sponsored domestic terrorists love nothing so much as torturing people.

[TexasObserver]

59. Harsh treatment for attempted public indecency.

Let's hope the police never make a showing of Oh Calcutta!

[babylonsister]

75. LOL! The irony! And "Hair" would never do either. nt

[uppityperson]

119. That is my thought also. He got nude at an outdoor concert.

So?

[wroberts189]

66. If a bunch of cops cannot arrest a naked man without a taser ...

They need to eat more donuts.

There was once a time when tasers did not exist and yet we still managed to make arrests.

[RufusTFirefly]

68. Reminds me of what my father used to say about major league umpires

"You won't get thrown out of a game for making an umpire mad. But you will get thrown out for embarrassing him."

The man embarrassed the cops. So they retaliated by tasering him. Niiice!

[yowzayowzayowza]

70. Why couldn't they zip tie each of his wrists...

separately, then zip tie 'em together? Zip, zip, zip and the drunken idiot is under control. They seem to have resorted to tasing due to the unwieldy nature of the metal cuffs ... which tiz excessive. :shrug:

[ContinentalOp]

73. Wow, check out this other video linked from that video page!

http://ignoredprayers.blogspot.com/2008/09/fuck-police-security-reason-4769404.html?zx=752714bc096357cf

[reggie the dog]

76. behavior that probably would not even have drawn police attention

here in France or in places like Belgium or the Netherlands

[omega minimo]

78. Well none of those three had seen their penises in a while and it pissed them off!!!!

Kay the Bear tells what time it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLiY0fqPISQ

[Warren Stupidity]

91. A few things about this

1) as far as I can tell the incident starts when the police confronted an inebriated and dressed concert goer. He was not undressed at the start of the incident. Why exactly are the police confronting inebriated multi-day concert attendees? So what if he undressed? What is the agenda of the police at these events? In fact, why are they even there?

2) when I was a kid those cops had better have had a lot of backup 'cause there was no way they were going to get away with that shit. The crowd would have ended that 'arrest' rather quickly. The passivity of the crowd is appalling. Oh they webcam it, but otherwise stand there and watch and do nothing.

3) what is with the gentle people here who cannot see brutality and violence by authorities even when it is literally right in front of their noses?

[babylonsister]

94. Thanks. Your #3 is a good question. I don't get it either. nt

[omega minimo]

95. Zackly

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5520831&mesg_id=5524180

[uppityperson]

120. Thank you. Those are good questions. eom

[lib2DaBone]

97. Kind of hard to fault the cops on this one...

they asked the guy nicely to please put his pants back on. It is a public event... I don't think it was asking too much for the guy to put his drawers back on....

[omega minimo]

101. Maybe that was their mistake. Acting all buddy smiley fakey and not authoritative to begin with.

They abdicated their authority and then used high voltage physical assault to make up for their mistake.

They need training. What county is Coachella in, anyway? Riverside?

[Enrique]

98. where's the Hells Angels when you need them

they know how to handle naked concertgoers.

[Brooklyns_Finest]

109. Naked drunk

First off, those cops were just way too fat and out of shape to do their job. Unfortunately, the unions will balk if departments tried to implement any kind of fitness standard or physical fitness test. If they were in shape, this incident would not have had to end the way it did.

Second, I don't blame the cops on this one. In America, indecent exposure(walking around naked in public) is a crime. He was actively breaking the law, those cops would/should have been reprimanded if they did not act.

Third, handcuffing a person is a lot harder than it might seem. Granted, if the cops were in shape, they would have been able to do so.

Lastly, how does this "man" satisfy his women? That was just pathetic.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

113. So, unions are to blame for those cops being out of shape?

I've never attended Coachella, but based on multi-day concerts past, I'd almost be disappointed if I didn't see a few naked drunks running around.

[Kellen RN]

125. While normally I would agree that intoxicated naked people

need to be subdued, it was coachella... this is excepted behavior and nothing compared to what goes on at Burning Man. Totally uncalled for. I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the people there, if there were no cops confronting him, would see him and say "Hey look, a naked dude" and continue on to the next stage. The only people he was offending were the cops.

[Echo In Light]

129. And belligerent He-Men who HATE "spaced out weirdos."

[uppityperson]

135. Yup. eom

[inwiththenew]

127. LOL

That was pretty funny. He acted like and idiot and was given ample opportunity to comply but didn't. So as a consequence of that he got to ride the lightning.

[olegramps]

131. The guy is fortunate that he was playing to a crowd. Had he been alone, he might be recovering.

It appears to me that they didn't want to excite the crowd or be seen beating the crap out of the guy. It has always stuck me strange that in our society that nudity is considered to be so terribly offensive that it can't be shown on TV, but it is fine for children to view the most brutal depictions of violence.

[Tim01]

136. He was violating the law in spite of police officers asking him not to.

Maybe the police should just give up when a person resists them?