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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:27 AM
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Obtained: Cheney’s Request Form Detailing The Two (only 2??) CIA Torture Docs He Wants
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Obtained: Cheney’s Request Form Detailing The Two CIA Torture Docs He Wants


I’ve just obtained from the National Archives the actual request form that Dick Cheney submitted for CIA documents he claims will prove that torture worked.

Cheney requested all of two CIA documents, a total of 21 pages.

You can look at Cheney’s request form right here. They open the window a bit on the scope and direction of his request, which he has claimed will prove that Bush’s torture program yielded worthwhile intelligence.

Cheney requested two CIA reports, both of them from the “detainees” folder, which suggests that the docs detail the interrogation of suspects.

One is dated July 13th, 2004, and numbers eight pages.

The other is dated June 1st, 2005, and numbers 13 pages.

The CIA has redacted the detailed description of the documents because they’re classified. In total, Cheney requested all of 21 pages to support his claim that torture worked.

We still don’t know if we’ll ever get to see these docs, but this is a start. More soon.

Update: David Kurtz notes a key detail about this form: It’s a request for forms from Cheney’s office, which are marked “detainees.” As Kurtz says, that appears to mean that Cheney kept a file marked “detainees.”
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:28 AM
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1. If Cheney Still Thinks He Can "Cherry Pick" Intelligence-He's Got Another Thing Coming!
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 11:28 AM by Beetwasher
n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:28 AM
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2. "Sneer." - xVP Dickie 'Five-Military-Deferments' Cheney (R)
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 11:30 AM by SpiralHawk
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:32 AM
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3. the "detainees" file was kept in his private bath room...
...on the shelf beside the jar of vaseline and box of tissues.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:39 AM
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6. Gee, thanks.
Now please excuse me while I go short-circuit my brain to remove that image.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:53 AM
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7. yeah, it's pretty gruesome....
Not as awful as Cheney's feedings must be, though. Resistance is futile.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:37 AM
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4. Interesting...
"Update: David Kurtz notes a key detail about this form: It’s a request for forms from Cheney’s office, which are marked “detainees.” As Kurtz says, that appears to mean that Cheney kept a file marked “detainees.”"

I suspect anything in that file marked "detainees" that would be incriminating to Cheney was removed and shredded prior to the file going to the Archives but it would still be interesting to see the WHOLE file. Cheney has already been proven wrong when he stated, on television, that torture worked to stop an attack on Los Angeles when the person who was supposedly tortured for the information in 2002 was NOT captured until 2003.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:38 AM
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5. Only two cherries hanging on that tree, eh?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 12:29 PM
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8. Nothin' like puttin' a little something away for a rainy day, eh Uncle Darth?
I'd like to see Dick prove the origin of these documents and the chain of custody. But what we're going to get (if they ever see the light of day).... well that's different. The masters of redaction will ensure these documents serve Teh Dick, only Teh Dick, and are worthless in any other way.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 12:33 PM
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9. Cheney's torture worked, didn't work...makes no difference.
Still a war crime. Period.
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