Human Swine Influenza Investigation - CDC

[seemslikeadream]

http://www.pandemicflu.gov/

April 24, 2009 22:00 EST

Human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) virus infection have been identified in the U.S. in San Diego County and Imperial County, California as well as in San Antonio, Texas. Internationally, human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) virus infection have been identified in Mexico.





http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=atHtXtCigRII&refer=europe
Swine Flu May Be Named Event of ‘International Concern’ by WHO


By Jason Gale

April 25 (Bloomberg) -- The World Health Organization is set to declare the deadly swine flu virus outbreak in Mexico and the U.S. a global concern, potentially prompting travel restrictions, said a person familiar with the matter.

An emergency committee of the WHO in Geneva will declare the outbreak “a public health event of international concern” in a 4 p.m. teleconference today, said the person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the meeting is confidential. In response, WHO Director-General Margaret Chan may raise the level of pandemic alert, which could lead to travel restrictions aimed at curbing the disease’s spread.

[havocmom]

1. Does the virus survive on surfaces at all? If so, for how long? Anybody know/have links?

Cuz if it does, travel restrictions don't solve the problem of spreading in a time when foods travel around the world.

Plant a garden, buy locally produced foods as much as possible, because it is so much better for you and your family to know where your food is from. Frankly, food that gets frequent flyer miles is pretty bland.

[stray cat]

2. From an article in the NYtimes it sounds like its popped up in enough places

that travel restrictions won't do much.

[seemslikeadream]

3. The kids from New York had just come back from Mexico

[stray cat]

9. CDC quoted as no point in containment measure as it is distributed geographically

We are worried,” said Dr. Richard Besser, the acting head of the C.D.C. “We don’t know if this will lead to the next pandemic, but we will be monitoring it and taking it seriously.”

There is no point in trying to use containment measures in the United States, he said, because the swine flu virus has already appeared from San Antonio to San Diego, without any obvious connections among cases. Containment measures usually work only when a disease is confined to a small area, he said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/25/world/americas/25mexico.html

[FedUpWithIt All]

13. Do you have a link for this?

:hi:

A lot of people are concerned about a possible NY link.

[seemslikeadream]

14. I just kicked the thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5530534&mesg_id=5530534

[FedUpWithIt All]

15. I meant a link that confirms that the kids had been in Mexico.

Thanks

:hi:

[seemslikeadream]

16. It's there post 9

:hi:


I can't get the whold NYT article looking for someone who can

Swine Flu Fears at a Private School in Queens
By ANAHAD O’CONNOR
Published: April 25, 2009
Students reported flu-like symptoms after several had reportedly returned from Mexico, where there is a deadly outbreak.

[FedUpWithIt All]

17. Ah, so it is...

:scared:

Thanks again.

[northernlights]

6. it doesn't matter because it's too late

I don't believe it survives on surfaces -- it's a membrane-enclosed virus (the baby virions wrap themselves in host cell membrane as they exit the cells) so probably needs to be in body fluids to survive.

But really, it's too late. Flu viruses have a 2-9 day incubation period. That means a host can be spreading the virus for days before they show symptoms and realize they're sick.

And it's been in Mexico for several weeks now. Anybody who was exposed in Mexico in the last several weeks could be harboring it, spreading it and not know it yet.

[seemslikeadream]

7. Like the highschool kids that came back from Mexico

[Avalux]

18. Influenza A & B survive on hard, nonporous surfaces from 24-48 hours.

Porous materials like tissues, cloth for less than 8-12 hours. Keep in mind transmission most likely occurs through the air, via droplets from sneezing, coughing.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6282993

[Joanne98]

4. Here's a map of Imperial County

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_County,_California

[seemslikeadream]

5. Thanks Joanne

:hi:

[underpants]

8. I'm glad I am not a conspiracy theorist because this one has a stink to it

the "danger of contagious disease" talking point failed a few years ago for the anti-immigration crowd and this would fit right into it

but since I am not a conspiracy theorists I don't read THAT much into it

[seemslikeadream]

10. Cheney backed into a corner and "hoping" we are not attacked again

because that would vindicate him from the "torture" thing. And Rumfeld connection with the drug companies.....no I am very sure we have nothing to worry about

[Democracyinkind]

12. Considering how tight our security in places like Fort Detrick is I totally agree.

Indeed, nothing to worry. I bet the American Chemical war program as well as its nuclear force is handled rationally and safe....


...from the people who have b(r)ought you(r) Empire....

I hope this is not "the pandemic"... Hope everyone gets well again.

[dixiegrrrrl]

20. And who was it that predicted "Obama will tested "

in the early days of his Presidency...something to that effect?
" severely tested"..was that the wording??
Was that Cheney?
In fact, hasn't Cheney been blathering all over the airwaves of late?

and wasn't the anthrax in the 2004 attacks identified as a Ft. Detrick strain?
Created by the now deceased Bruce Ivins.?
and why do I feel Jerome Hauer is involved in this?
Oh, because he just happens to be director of several "emergency bio-terror response" companies.
And the Carlyle group is heavily invested in one of them, Bio-Port.
Bio-port is in Maryland.
Bio-port bought the patents for the anthrax vaccine from...Bruce Ivins.
Bio-Port won a very very lucrative DOD contract to give anthrax vaccines to the military.

somehow I expect a vaccine will pop up for this outbreak, and the DOD will give a contract to one of
Hauer's companies, as it did for the anthrax vaccine.

Yeah..I got links..

http://www.muckety.com/Jerome-M-Hauer/16005.muckety
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergent_biosolutions

[spin]

11. If I was a conspiracy theorist...I would feel it was a manufactured virus...

It first looked mostly like a swine virus but closer analysis showed it is a never-before-seen mixture of swine, human and avian viruses, according to the CDC.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N24524032.htm

However it doesn't look deadly enough.

[malaise]

19. So Rumsfeld et al cashes in again with

TAMIflu? Just in time to pay for those lawyers.