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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:16 PM
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Chrysler, CAW reach tentative agreement on concessions
The Canadian Auto Workers tentatively agreed late Friday to new concessions with Chrysler LLC that will save the automaker C$240 million ($198.3 million) annually and help avoid a bankruptcy filing, union President Ken Lewenza said.

In exchange, the union got Chrysler and potential partner Fiat S.p.A. to agree to keep its two Chrysler assembly plants open even if bankruptcy is unavoidable, Lewenza said at a news conference.

General Motors and Ford Motor Co., which signed new CAW agreements earlier, have indicated their desire to get the same concessions as those negotiated with Chrysler, he said.

The agreement kept wages at about C$35 an hour. But the union gave up break time, bonuses, tuition reimbursement, some supplemental pay and semiprivate hospital rooms. As part of the plan, the union agreed to institute Fiat's manufacturing processes as well.

The CAW also negotiated the creation of a retiree health-care trust similar to the Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Associations established in 2007 with the UAW.

Terms need to be ironed out, Lewenza said. But Chrysler has agreed to capitalize the fund adequately to support the benefits negotiated, he said. The fund will save Chrysler money because it transfers the obligation to the trust for seeing that retirees get supplemental benefits beyond those offered by Canada's national health care system.

The agreement also allows students earning considerably less than veteran workers to work additional hours at Chrysler plants.

The union said the cuts were demanded by Fiat, which said it would not consider aligning itself with Chrysler otherwise. There was no immediate comment on the deal from Fiat.

Windsor plant losing a shift

"We are extremely grateful to the CAW leadership and to its hard-working members for their openness in this challenging environment to create a new strategy that will lead this company on a path to success," Chrysler President Tom LaSorda said in a prepared statement.

Lewenza confirmed that Chrysler's minivan plant in Windsor, Ontario, will lose its third production shift as had the assembly plant in Brampton, Ontario, where Chrysler produces the Chrysler 300 sedan and Dodge Charger and Challenger.

He said, though, that Chrysler had agreed to put the plants in the surviving part of Chrysler should the company be forced to seek Chapter 11 reorganization in the United States and bankruptcy protection in Canada.

A Chapter 11 filing could come as early as next week if the Obama administration doubts Chrysler's viability and withholds an additional $6 billion in federal loans that the company is seeking as it tries to complete a U.S.-mandated alliance with Fiat.

Lewenza said that threat caused the union to bargain "with a gun at our heads." The CAW will share the terms of the agreement with its 10,000 Chrysler hourly members this weekend. He said ratification will be completed by 8 p.m. Sunday ET.

Chrysler wanted $19 an hour in labor savings to bring labor costs in line with those of Toyota Canada. Lewenza would not spell out how the C$240 million in concessions translates into hourly savings.

Chrysler needs its stakeholders, including the CAW and UAW, to agree to concessions before an April 30 Treasury Department deadline.

In a letter to Chrysler Canada workers last week, Chrysler CEO Bob Nardelli and LaSorda said that without concessions "Chrysler Canada's manufacturing operations will not survive long-term."

Chrysler has received $4 billion in Treasury rescue loans to date and another $1 billion from the Canadian government.


http://www.autonews.com/article/20090424/ANA02/904249933/1229 (posted in total, subscription only)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:24 PM
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1. concessions -- i.e driving down the living standars of american workers. nt
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:26 PM
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3. True
Future job seekers will be debating whether to work at Wal-Mart or one of the auto makers as the pay and benefits will probably be about the same in ten years or less.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:37 PM
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4. So Chrysler got the concessions, which means they aren't filing for bankruptcy?
That's how I read it. I'm wondering what deal was cut with Obama's Administration to allow them to continue if they could get 'concessions' from the Unions. It seems 'parity' with the piss-ant wages Toyota pays it's workers is where the UAW has to be to survive, which means wages of about $35,000 a year for a family of four is acceptable for the Obama Administration.


This just sucks.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 04:22 PM
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7. A bankruptcy is strictly a country-by-country thing
Technically, a US bankruptcy of Chrysler would not have any direct effect on Chrysler plants in Canada, but of course, there might be side effects that would become evident later.

As I read this, it said the pay would be $35 Canadian dollars per hour, and in a standard 2,000 hour year, that works out to nearly $58,000 US dollars. When you factor in that Canadians have single payer health insurance, it might go a bit further there than it does here.

Two years ago, I was working in a Taiwanese-owned semiconductor factory for about $30K a year, including my overtime, although I had free health insurance for myself. $58K sounds good, especially since I now have a part time job that only employs me from 20 to 30 hours per week right now and no health benefits.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 04:44 PM
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8. I haven't seen 50K a year in over 15 years.
Being poor has become a way of life.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:11 PM
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12. For me, too
Last time I made that much was 1993, come to think of it. But, I'm still fairly healthy for a large guy, and I am in a great relationship with a wonderful woman, the worst thing she did was drag me away from the Pacific Northwest two years ago.

She's going to be the DD for our trip to the Tap NY beer festival tomorrow, three years ago she used tickets to that festival to entice me here!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:14 PM
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13. BEER
I wish. Have fun. Get a driver too (or a motel, wink wink nudge nudge).

:hi:
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:23 PM
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14. My lady is my driver!
She's going for the designated driver price, which entitles her to unlimited soft drinks, and all the food that's passed around. Last year, they did dozens of variations on chicken, this year the featured food is sausage. Beer and sausages, great!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:30 PM
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15. Oh the farts those two chemicals cause
and they say the pig flu is lethal! :rofl:
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:27 PM
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18. It'll be good weather, she's likely to drive
with the windows open after I tilt my seat back and start sleeping it off. That lets me off the hook, she understands I cannot be blamed for anything I do or say while sleeping!
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 04:55 PM
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9. I think Chrysler (and GM) will still file bankruptcy
regardless of the concessions they get from the unions and bondholders. I just don't see bankruptcy not happening. I'm guessing Chrysler will file next week and GM will follow within a week or two (or sometime before the June 1st deadline at least). This is just my guess and I could be wrong....I hope I am.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:33 PM
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19. Well watch out for beer drinking, sausage eating cows
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 10:00 PM by DainBramaged


(was actually a reply to #18, sorry)
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:26 PM
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2. Remind of the compensation concessions the Chrysler execs made?
Is that CEO the one working for $1 a year? Or were they the guys that threatened to sue if their packages were cut?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:58 PM
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5. chrysler is`t going to survive unless they build a decent automobile
it used to be the Chrysler made the best engines and transmissions but now either one or both will self destruct around a 100,000 miles.i won`t go into the electrical problems they have. other than the 1993-97 lh model chrysler has`t designed an aesthetically pleasing car in years. chrysler has a long way to go before they can say they have a world class product.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 03:44 PM
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6. Not true, the vans and Jeeps are best sellers, and people adore them
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 03:46 PM by DainBramaged
PLUS, the police version of the Chrysler 300 is now the ONLY real rear wheel drive police car made, and they are selling in huge numbers.


http://www.allpar.com/cars/lx/dodge-charger.html


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:21 PM
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16. jeep is their number one brand name around the world
their new vans are the best design they have ever built. rear drive cop cars are still the favorite with law enforcement.
i still think their problem is their consumer cars.
i had a first generation intrepid which was one of the best cars i have ever owned,3.3 with 220,000 miles that purred like a kitten,and 26+ mpg. after the second trans went out after 100,000 miles.. i have driven the next two generation dodges and they sucked.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:01 PM
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10. I agree, I read a consumers report a few months ago, and they recommended 0% of Chryslers new cars
For the record, they recommended around 28% of GM's (saying GM had a few good ones, but a lot of bad older models weighing their average down), and Ford had something like 54% of their cars recommended.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:05 PM
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11. Consumer Reports, never met a Japanese car they didn't like
http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2007/01/05/consumer-reports-says-your-infant-car-seat-is-crap.aspx


Consumer Reports Says Your Infant Car Seat Is Crap


The onslaught will begin all over the internet tonight. Stores will sell out of the seats they recommended. People will be scared that their child is destined to die in a crash because CR said their seat failed. As one tech so politely put it, "roll up the magazine and use it to start a fire."

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:24 PM
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17. i use this site
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