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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:43 PM
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Does this seem fair to you?
Regarding window tint on cars and trucks. Cars are held to a different legal restriction than are Multi-person vehicles (trucks, minivans, suv's). Can Equal Protection be extended to the operators of cars as well as SUV's?

Here's Georgia's window tint law:

Front and rear side windows and the rear windshield may be tinted so that 32% of the light hitting the window passes through the window and the aftermarket film.

Here's what 30% looks like.


The other half of the law is that trucks, vans, SUV's and other "Multi-person vehicles" are exempt from the restrictions on the tint for the back seats, back sides, and rear window.


This is completely legal


I understand the safety issues behind the law. Cops want to be able to see who's in the vehicles so they dont walk into a face full of shotgun blast. Why is it legal for a truck, suv, minivan, or other multi-person vehicle to have dark tint on the back, but not for a car? Hypothetically you could fit a whole lot more gunmen in the back of an SUV than a Toyota Corolla.

For the record, here's my car:



I need window tint for my job where I conduct mobile and stationary surveillance from my vehicle. I have gotten 3 tickets for window tint violations and had to remove the tint twice only to reapply it.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:48 PM
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1. You have a few choices
You can challenge the law the next time you are ticketed.

You can work to get the law corrected by lobbying your legislators (get the state's PI's and bondsmen to join, I'm sure they would).

You can just buy the vehicle that is allowed the darker tint.

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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:51 PM
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2. I'm dealing with it. I pay the fine. I cant afford a new car and the PI association is flacid
on the upside, I am moving to Florida soon which allows 15% on the back and rear sides for cars (and anything for MPV's), but it is never enforced.

I just wonder if it's fair to apply different standards to different vehicles with no apparent logic.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:54 PM
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4. what is that saying? Fair is where one goes to show off cows? or is that pigs???
in any event...NOTHING IS FAIR...but you are correct it is discrimination based on the price of the vehicle..and if you can afford to...challenge the law!
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:51 PM
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3. The great Hindu truth, that you must learn at a young age, is
that life is not fair.
dc
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:56 PM
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5. i know that in NY.... the driver window, passenger window and the windshield cannot have
tinting. I have seen people driving around with that dark tint on the front windows, but it's not legal. I was riding with a friend several years ago and she had a dark tint just at the top of her windshield!! above her line of sight. and i think she had slight tinting on the driver and passenger window. this was FACTORY tinting as well. well, she got pulled over and got a ticket for the tint being like that. unless they have changed it since then, then there are a lot of people driving around with illegal tinting on their windows. i don't know what the rules are anywhere else.
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:57 PM
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6. No, not fair
But if they make it fair, the tint law would apply to all vehicles. I don't see how that would help you.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:57 PM
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7. On the one hand, the law is not fair.
On the other hand, I'm not so willing to expend energy ensuring that it's easier for private citizens to conduct surveillance on each other. :)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 02:01 PM
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8. One reason for laws is to try to make things fair(er)
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:55 PM
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13. Yes, and my solution would be
to stop allowing such dark tinting on the SUVs.

That wouldn't improve the OP's ability to spy on people, but it would solve their concern that they were being treated unfairly.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 03:52 PM
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9. I've often thought that the #1 reason people have extra dark tint
on their car windows is that they have something to hide. Your statements above have not changed my mind.

Leaving that aside for a minute, there really doesn't seem to be a lot of rational reasons for a difference between a regular passenger automobile and a bigger vehicle, other than the fact that bigger vehicles are less dependent on seeing out side windows, and more dependent on using bigger mirrors. If you're in a Hummer, you're not going to see a Geo Metro through the back passenger window anyway, you gotta use your mirrors to see the smaller traffic.
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:12 PM
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10. But you have to see through your window to see the mirrors. nt
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:21 PM
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12. That's why it's only the back seats, back sides, and back window
that are allowed to have the dark tint.

I'm not defending it, I'm just trying to develop the 'logic' for it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:13 PM
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11. This could possibly be The World's Least Important Issue.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 06:21 PM
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14. yet you felt the need to comment, thanks for enriching the conversation
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 06:22 PM by NightWatcher
I'm sorry I didnt have something to say about Susan Boyle to make it more important
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