Last week 3 vials of deadly virus went missing...

[CoffeeCat]

I'm just wondering if this is an unrelated, yet bizarre coincidence. We currently have a flu
outbreak, and just last Wednesday (4/22) CNN reported that 3 vials of a deadly virus are missing from a research
facility at Ft. Detrick.

Quote from the article: "The vials contained samples of Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis, a virus that sickens horses and can be spread to humans by mosquitoes. In 97 percent of cases, humans with the virus suffer flu-like symptoms, but it can be deadly in about 1 out of 100 cases, according to Caree Vander Linden, a spokeswoman for the Army's Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. There is an effective vaccine for the disease and there hasn't been an outbreak in the United States since 1971." More at link: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/22/missing.virus.sample/index.html

I'm not saying this is related, but these two events happening within the span of a few days, is strange.

I'm not a epidemiologist--and I know that the missing virus is related to horses and the current outbreak in Mexico is the Swine Flu.

Just thought I'd throw this out there and see if anyone had an opinion.

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. I heard that the swine flu virus has genes from avian, swine, human

and thought it sounded more like a recipe concocted in a lab. My tin foil hat has been on since I heard the news about the flu.

[Avalux]

9. All the viruses are Influenza A.

Avain, swine and human forms of Influenza A can combine to form new strains. It's entirely possible in certain environmental conditions; people in contact with livestock, etc. What we don't know yet is how this particular strain of virus jumped to humans and now appears to be easily transmitted from human to human.

[SheilaT]

19. And influenza A is the worst

of the (I think there are three) types. The Spanish Flu was a type A.

The good news is, if you've had and recovered from a particular strain of flu you're pretty much immune to it forever. One reason why so few old people succumb to the 1918 Spanish flu was that about fifty years earlier there had been an outbreak of a type A flu, and many of the older folks already had immunity.

[midnight]

2. From what we are learning about the last eight years, I'm

wondering about something very odd going on too.

[havocmom]

20. I keep thinking back to the rash of prominent micro-biologists that had odd deaths a few years ago

several here, in Britain, some other countries. Odd circumstances, several declared suicide when the facts did not seem like suicide. Anybody else remember more?

[shraby]

3. Has there been a complete inventory yet to determine

if anything else is missing?

[FirstLight]

4. perhaps not related... BUT

I find it strange that the "swine flu" thing is a mix of swine, bird and human virus..sounds like a biotech company leak to me for SURE!!!!

you know, bushco didn't regulate SHIT - they may have banned stem cell research, but everything else was just a 'don't tell us about it' kind of thing... they had no interest in science...unless Cheney could use it to keep his battery acid running through his veins.

Edit to add:
You know, for all the money and bullshit they used to keep us "safe" after 9/11 - there were plenty of reports throughout the past 8 years that electric grids, water supplies, and yes, even biotech establishments were sorely lacking in secutiry...even though the money and HGomeland Security program were supposed to retrofit these locations to be more secure.

...funny, do you remember "The Stand" ...? the whole thing started with a worker at the CDC being infected unknowingly, and then hes infected people ALL along his way home and it just spread exponentially from there... It would be a good idea to look up these biotech and genetic research companies and see which ones are located in Mexico, eh?

[MercutioATC]

6. It's really not odd at all...that's what viruses do.

Viruses are not fixed like bacteria...they constantly combine and mutate.

[Berry Cool]

10. And here I was, just about to say

"Why is it I'm hearing Blue Oysler Cult's 'Don't Fear the Reaper' playing in my head?" :scared:

[BluePatriot21]

17. Reminds me of...

The Saturday night live skit with the cowbell and Christopher Walken,

I've got a fever and the only cure is more cowbell baby!

Maybe it's time to dust off the old cowbell and get ready to play it.

[Avalux]

5. I don't think it's related in any way, but here's another story to raise the red flags:

Officials spooked by bird flu mix-up
March 18, 2009 — 11:15am ET | By John Carroll

Public health officials in Europe are taking steps to make sure there's no repeat of a recent incident in which the lethal H5N1 virus was accidentally combined with a seasonal flu virus and shipped to labs in Europe. Officials say that the bird flu virus contaminated batches of H3N2 virus shipped from Baxter's Austrian labs to a customer. That raised the possibility of a viral mutation that could trigger a human pandemic. Baxter, for its part, stressed that the H3N2 virus had been made "replication defective" and that there was little chance of sparking a pandemic.

http://www.fiercebiotech.com/story/officials-spooked-bird-flu-mix/2009-03-18?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss&cmp-id=OTC-RSS-FB0

[kentuck]

7. Didn't anthrax originate at Ft Detrick at MD also?

Coincidentally, the first victim of the anthrax was in Florida. And there was supposedly an explanation for the 21 horses that died the other day in FL? But it makes one wonder. So it is that conspiracy theories are borne.

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

8. Rakish tilt to my tinfoil hat

What about the polo ponies in FL? 21 horses killed by Supplements?


down the rabbit hole . . .

[CoffeeCat]

12. Was that a trial run?

Just asking...

I know, it's tin-foily.

[Ian David]

11. They went missing during the Bush Admin around 2004. n/t

[hlthe2b]

13. Unrelated... n/t

[Hanse]

14. And let's not forget those South American horses that all died.

And we all know Mexico is in South America.

Hmmm. Very suspicious.

[RoyGBiv]

15. Correction ...

Last week three vials of deadly virus were discovered missing.

The three missing vials were among thousands of vials that were under the control of a senior scientist who retired in 2004. When another Fort Detrick scientist recently inventoried the retired scientist's biological samples, he discovered that the three vials of the virus were missing.

The author of this article did a poor job of clarifying when the vials went missing or if anyone knows when they went missing, but all that passage strictly says is that the discovery of the missing vials occurred last week. Based on the information presented, they could have gone missing at any point between 2004 (or before, if the previous scientist had not done an accurate inventory) and last week.

One would hope that inventories of potentially deadly virus are inventoried more frequently than once every five years, but that's not clear from the article either.

[Occam Bandage]

16. That would be a coincidence.

Entirely different diseases.

[stray cat]

18. Not even a flu virus- doesn't fit the genetics