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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:17 PM
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Obama may have been exposed to Swine Flu?
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 11:18 PM by CoffeeCat
Look at the fifth paragraph in this Bloomberg News article that was released today (kind of a buried lede...don't you think?)...

"The first case was seen in Mexico on April 13. The outbreak coincided with the President Barack Obamas trip to Mexico City on April 16. Obama was received at Mexicos anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archaeologist who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu, Reforma newspaper reported. The newspaper didnt confirm if Solis had swine flu or not."

Wouldn't they know *by now* if this dead archaeologist, who died the day after he met with President Obama--had Swine Flu???

Link to full article: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aEsNownABJ6Q&refer=worldwide
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:31 PM
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1. Obama Faces Swine Flu and Swine Flu Blinks
Well? Didn't it?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:33 PM
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2. ONLY if they sent samples
to the CDC... the mexican labs don't have yet the capacity to do this

That said, I can almost bet my sweet potatoes that given WHO he met, samples were sent

And I am willing to bet that not only has the PResident been under CAREFUL care by medics and doctors, but probably received the meds...

VIP medicine can and does get amusing by the by
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:40 PM
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3. Mexico has confirmed hundreds of cases of Swine Flu...
...haven't they? The news reports are confirming close to 100 deaths from the Swine Flu in Mexico.

So, the Mexican Labs seem to be confirming cases.

Or am I missing something?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:44 PM
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4. Only AFTER CDC sent the genetic tracks
they sent 20 samples to CDC

In return they got the testing protocol

but you can bet Dr. Solis's sample was sent to Atlanta

You can also bet they will NEVER, ever, confirm it if this was the case
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:50 PM
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6. That's the point that I was trying to make...
...but I failed. It's too late to be awake! :)

I assumed that if this guy was exposed to our President, that the powers-that-be would know full well if
the guy died of Swine Flu. That answer would be crystal clear by now.

And isn't it interesting that the media couldn't get a confirm/deny on his Swine Flu test? I'd guess that if
it wasn't Swine Flu, we'd know. They'd be in a real hurry to confirm that.

It's just all very interesting...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:04 AM
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8. KNowing a little about panic and all that, no, they'd not be in any
rush to confirm it

Personally I assume he was... and I also assume even if he didn't... he still gets the antivirals
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:49 PM
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5. I feel like I'm in a time warp this evening because every time I go back to the front page of DU
this story is at or near the top. I had fallen asleep watching tv and when I awoke I checked the front page and here it is again.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:52 PM
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7. Oh good, my experiment worked
I've been trying to screw with the space-time continuum--using a hamster wheel, two AA batteries and some copper wire.

I've succeeded!!

Muahahahahah!

:hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:04 AM
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9. You stole the gerbil from my netbook?
I was wondering where it went.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:20 AM
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10. He's here. And he's fine...
However, he does have a slight green glow.

;)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 05:54 AM
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24. I think the hamster ..um..er.. expired..or.. maybe he's just resting
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 05:56 AM by SoCalDem



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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:23 AM
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11. This reminds me of a scene from Taxi with Rev. Jim: "I thought I dreamed that."
"Hey, maybe I'm dreaming this." I'm not sure anymore. It's getting late, or maybe it's getting early. :crazy:
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chimpyisstillsatan Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:25 AM
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12. consider the source. nt
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:33 AM
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14. You don't consider Bloomberg a reliable source?
Bloomberg news is one of the premier business news sources in the country.

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chimpyisstillsatan Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:50 AM
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16. Nope, it's a 24/7 stock tip service. Pumping the shorts, I'd bet. nt
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:00 AM
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17. Ok...you have your opinion...
...but this article is about the President visiting Mexico and being exposed to someone
who died of "flu-like symptoms".

So, you're suggesting that this is completely false information?

Bloomberg News, has always been above-board when it comes to news and information. I'm surprised to hear
someone suggest that they would make up events out of whole cloth.

As far as business news, I consider sources like CNBC and CNN to be scams. They're so in bed with the corporations,
it's obvious and pathetic.

Bloomberg has much more credibility in my opinion.
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chimpyisstillsatan Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:19 AM
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21. This article is Wurlitzer food with a buried lede.
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 01:20 AM by chimpyisstillsatan
So Obama bumped into someone who later died with flu-like symptoms. Died OF what has not yet been determined, but Bloomberg's verbiage suggests (with plausible deniability) that it has, thus implying swine flu.

WTF are "flu-like symptoms" in a 65 year old man, anyway? I can name at least seven common causes of death that include "flu-like" co-morbidities at that age. Only one of them is the flu. Hell, I'm only 45 and my days are filled with several flu-like symptoms. It's a bullshit term, and shoddy journalism to use it.

Greater Mexico city has 21 Million people. Obama directly contacted (in a way that propagates the flu) at most 1000 people during his visit. At the height of the 1918 flu, 25% of the population got sick from the flu, and 3% of them died. Do the math.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:55 AM
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22. In fact, Mexican press says Dr. Solis died Thursday 23rd,
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 02:17 AM by Ghost Dog
so Bloomberg is wrong to say he died on Friday 17th (and would have taken very simple fact-checking - The Reforma headline says "Recibe a Obama; muere das despus" - Meets Obama, dies (a few) days later - Search on "Felipe Solis" at Reforma's site: http://www.reforma.com/ ).

editing to improve links...

eg:

Redaccin
El Universal
Ciudad de Mxico Jueves 23 de abril de 2009
15:51

El director del Museo Nacional de Antropologa, Felipe Sols, falleci hoy a las 07:00 horas en la ciudad de Mxico, inform el Instituto Nacional de Antropologa e Historia.

/... http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/593194.html
--->
Editorial Staff
El Universal
Mexico City Thursday 23 April 2009
15:51

The Director of the National Museum of Anthropology, Felipe Solis, died today at 07:00 in Mexico City, the National Institute of Anthropology and History reported.


____

La Jornada
Viernes 24 de abril de 2009

El arquelogo y director del Museo Nacional de Antropologa, Felipe Sols Olgun, falleci este jueves, a las siete de la maana, a consecuencia de un paro cardiaco.

/... http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2009/04/24/index.php?section=cultura&article=a07n1cul
--->
The archaeologist and Director of the National Museum of Anthropology, Felipe Solis Olguin, died Thursday at seven o'clock in the morning, of heart failure.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:26 AM
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13. That connection's kinda scary
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 12:28 AM by Norquist Nemesis
Not sure if there is anti-dote or some sort of vaccine, but regardeless...what a coincidence that the very guy that greets Obama dies the next day.

eta: Was the guy like 85 and showed absolutely no signs of anything at the time of the meeting, or was he relatively young and healthy then suddenly took ill? :shrug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:35 AM
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15. birthdate
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 12:35 AM by nadinbrzezinski
18 de diciembre de 1944

That places him at 65

http://www.milenio.com/node/204052

Oh and he also had diabetes type two and his sugars went completely haywire, which actually is not rare in pneumonia
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:01 AM
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18. Obama has access to the best quality healthcare in the world.
I'm not worried.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:01 AM
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19. i'm sure he has already been checked for it
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:04 AM
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20. NO I don't think he ever got that close to
Rush Limbaugh.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 05:40 AM
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23. he's just past the incubation period
Odds are if he had caught it, he'd be symptomatic by now. Incubation is 2-9 days. Today is day 10.
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