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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:00 AM
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We were WRONG: There weren't 180+ waterboardings, there were merely 180+ "pours"!
Have you heard Pathetic Excuse for Torture #73?:

"the 180-plus times refers not to sessions of waterboarding, but to pours that is, to instances of water being poured on the subject."

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTJjNjg1OThmOTVlMWVmYTZiM2Q5ZGU5NzdjY2E0ODQ=

Well, that is completely different! :sarcasm:

See, it's just the same as this:

Claim: ten-year-old Billy was sodomized with a baseball bat by Uncle Dick Cheney 180 times in one month.

Wait one minute: We can't count each thrust of the bat as an act of sodomy.

At most, we should only say that Uncle Dick sodomized Billy with a baseball bat 30 times.


You do see the difference, don't you?

:patriot:



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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:04 AM
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1. Yep sort of like she wasn't raped 183 times just had his penis in her 183 times..
Waterboarding is a form of Rape. Forcing something into a persons body without their wanting it is Rape..
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:06 AM
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2. Was each pour from the ever-flowing bucket
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 11:22 AM by CJCRANE
in the CNN waterboarding graphic?

:shrug:

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:12 AM
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4. I don't know about that, but they say that medics were present...
Which makes it OK, ya know?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:16 AM
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5. Each "pour" is a torture
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 11:20 AM by CJCRANE
because the idea is to keep pouring until the person cracks.

On edit: so contrary to my previous post it doesn't matter how much or how little water was used.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:26 AM
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7. Precisely. On another note, subjects wore neckbraces when they were slammed...
...into walls.

So it was OK, really, plus the medics were there.

Oh, yeah, and SERE training subjected our guys to these things, so that wasn't torture.

You know, the SERE trainings used to prepare our guys for possible TORTURE?

Wait a minute.

:wtf:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:07 AM
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3. Is it true that Alberto Gonzales was an Air Force instructor in a Torture School?
A caller on Thom Hartmann said that this week.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:27 AM
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8. he was in the Air Force for a few years
but I don't think he was any kind of instructor
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:55 AM
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9. Perhaps an advisor to a Torture School? nt
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:56 AM
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10. He did a year at the AF Academy and suddenly was allowed to leave
No one ever followed up on WHY that happened
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 09:09 PM
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12. I stand corrected! one year lol
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:25 AM
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6. Boy could I go for a beer right now.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:08 PM
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11. Well, OK, then. 180 pours should be a snap when Hannity does it.
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