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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:46 AM
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Using GOP logic: Do you prosecute the born again Christian
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 11:49 AM by rustydog
Who kills an abortion doctor to save the unborn?

Two wrongs can never make a right. Torture is illegal. Period.
Murder is illegal, no matter what your rationale is.

It is amazing how the GOP has put party above country again and again.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 11:48 AM
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1. Using GOP logic
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 11:49 AM by AllentownJake
Most GOPers who are big on the abortion issue would vote justifiable homicide on the doctor if they were on a jury, so why are you surprised on the torture?

Born again Christians for the most part are neither "born again" nor "Christian"

they've just found religion to justify their selfish judgmental behavior.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:32 PM
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2. Thats painting with a wide brush
you have no idea how many "born again" Christians are sincere. You may be correct, but don't take a handful of gray and pretend its all just black and white.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:35 PM
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3. I said "Most"
I don't have a scientific study to prove that most people who were assholes before becoming "born again" are the same assholes afterward with just a new language and new friends, but my own personal experience.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:17 PM
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5. ALL of the conservative Born agains I have had the displeasure
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 01:20 PM by rustydog
of working with and listened to on the Teevee are so, excuse the phrase, Goddamn hypocritical.

They accuse the Homeless of milking the government by choosing homelessness, they blame 9-11 on homosexuality, they believe in the death penalty even though we have proof we have executed innocent people. They believe in killing abortion doctors but not charging the mother with murder...Hummm.

Yet when you quote their bible back at them, they back away and find obscure Old Testament verses to back their hatred and bigotry.
There is not one "except" carved in the 10 commandments:
Where is there Except in the words of God?

ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.' ( Money-Power)

TWO: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.' (How many worship the image of Christ onthe Cross?)

THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'

FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'

FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.'

SIX: 'You shall not murder.' ( iraq invasion, innocent people executed annually in USA)

SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery.' (several "Christian Repub leaders divorced, remarried, adulterous)

EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.'

NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.' (Iraq imminent threat,Saddam connected to Al Qaeda)

TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.' (Iraq oil)


Did not Jesus, our Lord and Savior say: "As you treat the least amongst you, you treat me?"

Explain that, hypocrites
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:13 PM
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4. Never met a "born again" that wasn't full of hate and smiles
It's the Calvinism in the mix. John Calvin loved torture and killing and justified everything using his fundamentalist teachings.

The fact that he was sincere and "seemed very nice" made little difference.

The ability to justify everything using Jewish scripture does not a Christian make.

I have met two sincere Disciples of Christ in my entire life, neither called themselves Christian.

This is not a broad brush, but based on every fanatic I have ever met that called themselves Christian while following the cherry picked old testament over Christ's teaching every time.

You may not like the fact that we remember our encounters and you may choose to dismiss our experiences, but if you are different you are sooooo in the minority and shouldn't rationalize the hate of your brethren by claiming our lying eyes and ears don't know what they have seen and heard.

Nothing personal, but nasty teachings breed nasty people, the smiley veneer and use of the word Christ on the cover simply does not change that.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:30 PM
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7. Actually, I am not Christian
but my experience is different than yours. The great majority of born agains I have met are not nasty and mean spirited. Some are quite peaceful, some seem sincere, and try to follow as best they can, and some are just lost and confused. Only a minority are inspired by hate, and it is my belief that these attitudes exist separately from their religious beliefs. In other words, should these few haters wake up tomorrow, firm in their new found Atheism (or Buddhism, or Hindusim, or any other "Ism"), they would still be assholes. Hate is really non-denominational.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:43 PM
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8. Hate is indeed non-denominational
Also I am pleased to hear you have met Christians that do not follow their preachers on the hate agenda, that is to me very encouraging. Wish I could say the same about my encounters.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:24 PM
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6. Wide brushes are very popular here at DU and they are the painting tool of choice.
In fact, the wide brush may be used here concerning Republicans with no questions asked.
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