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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:16 PM
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If "hard interrogations" aren't torture
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 01:43 PM by patrick t. cakes
then we should allow police to use the same
measures against citizens to "protect and serve" the public.

right?

of course not but its my new argument against pro torture freeper types.

if torture isnt fully investigated and shown for the inhumane, immoral act that it is
we put ourselves on a precipice that could possibly come back to haunt us.

i really hope we take the right course with full investigations, indictments
and lengthy prison sentences. from the TOP down.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:21 PM
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1. Try this one:
If changing the name of torture to Enhanced Interrogation Techniques, (EIT) no longer makes it Torture...
Why not just Call Rape, Enhanaced Fornication Technique, (EFT) and say it's not not Rape?
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:24 PM
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3. Assault could be replaced by "enhanced discussion" /nt
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:24 PM
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4. And child abuse as "Enhanced Child-Rearing Technique" (nt)
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:23 PM
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2. I was thinking the same thing...
Where do we draw the line? If we use "hard interrogations" against "enemy combatants," then when will we use them against "criminal types" here in the US?

Don't forget that Jimmy Carter wrote in his book "Our Endangered Values" that 70-90% of those rounded up in US raids in Iraq were innocent civilians. And he quotes statistics from both US Army intel and the International Red Cross.

How far are we prepared to go with this? :shrug:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:24 PM
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5. Taser isn't torture??
There have been more people die from police tasers than from police bullets in the last year.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:50 PM
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6. i think it is.
especially after someone has been apprehended. without a doubt its torture.

i think were already sliding down that slope,
and if these crimes committed arent brought to light
and the criminals brought to justice, that slope is going to be
be harder and harder to climb back up from.

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