Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

A few important aspects of America's torture policies rarely discussed.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:52 PM
Original message
A few important aspects of America's torture policies rarely discussed.

What of the innocent? How many poor, dumb bastards had the misfortune of being swept up in America's terrorist dragnet simply because of wrong place, wrong time or because they were fingered by others to settle a score or to fulfill a vendetta? What is their recourse? Who will apologize to them for the barbaric treatment meted out in America's secret prison system? Are these folks just being tossed back into society with a "Gee, I guess we were wrong - sorry"!

Were third parties like wives, children or relatives tortured in order to coerce alleged terrorists to talk?

Is there any doubt that Judge Bybee would have a completely different opinion if it were his loved ones being waterboarded based solely on a GUESS that they (or he) might know something about future terrorist attacks?

It is important that all Americans realize that according to Federal Judge Bybee's memo, waterboarding, head slamming and the rest could very easily wind up being used by your local law enforcement on people you know. That is why it is critical that people speak out and demand justice. Bybee, since apparently he will not rersign, should be impeached sooner rather than later.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 01:59 PM
Response to Original message
1. You are right. They were torturing SUSPECTS .
I pointed out a few days ago that it would be hard to have trials that the world would recognize as legitimate due to the taint of torture.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Why not just torture everyone to find out if they are up to no good?
I guess determining guilt or innocence comes after torture, if at all, in the BushCo view of the world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:19 AM
Response to Original message
3. Although I agree with most of your OP
you're wrong about Bybee's memo being legal justification for police to torture.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. Whew! That's a relief to know!
All that waterboarding and no comb.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Sep 24th 2020, 01:05 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC