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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:10 AM
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Glen Greenwald takes on David Broder and the other corp media APOLOGISTS and ENABLERS for torture.

The corporate media are covering their own asses.

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http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

Sunday April 26, 2009 10:34 EDT
David Broder and media culpability for Bush crimes

(updated below)

I read David Broder's truly wretched screed yesterday -- in which he demands immunity for Bush officials from investigation and prosecution and attacks those who advocate accountability -- and decided that I wouldn't write about it until today because I didn't want it to infect my Saturday. For purposes of catharsis, I did immediately note on Twitter that Broder's article was "a tour de force of Beltway sickness - even for him" and that "the Washington press corps has exactly the 'dean' it deserves." Fortunately, Hilzoy, Scott Lemieux and Roger Ailes -- among others -- have now made most of the points quite conclusively that need to be made about the morally depraved joke that David Broder is, leaving just a couple of observations worth noting.

To justify the absolute immunity he wants for government lawbreakers, Broder describes the Bush era as "one of the darkest chapters of American history, when certain terrorist suspects were whisked off to secret prisons and subjected to waterboarding and other forms of painful coercion in hopes of extracting information about threats to the United States." But that's easy to say now that the Bush presidency is over and the evidence of its criminality so undeniable. But Broder never said any such thing while it was all taking place, when it mattered. In fact, he did the opposite: he mocked those who tried to sound the alarm about how radical and "dark" the Bush presidency was and repeatedly defended what Bush officials were doing as perfectly normal, unalarming and well within the bounds of mainstream and legitimate policy.

As but one example, Broder -- in a September 15, 2006 Washington Post chat -- was asked by a reader about an Editorial in The New York Times which appeared that morning that warned of the grave dangers of abolishing habeas corpus and the protections of the Geneva Conventions, as the soon-to-be-enacted Military Commissions Act sought to do. In other words, back then, the Times Editorial Page was warning of exactly the policies -- "certain terrorist suspects were whisked off to secret prisons and subjected to waterboarding and other forms of painful coercion" -- which Broder today, with Bush safely gone, cites as examples of our "darkest chapter." Yet here is what Broder was saying about these things when it mattered:

Kingston, Ontario: I'm rather surprised by your and your correspondents' calm tone of voice this morning. Unless the New York Times editorial page is wildly off-track, the U.S. is in the grip of a major constitutional crisis, with the government trying to set aside long established guarantees of legal behavior, both internally and in relation to international law. Where's the sense of urgency?

David S. Broder: Far be it from me to question the New York Times, but I'd like to assure you that Washington is calm and quiet this morning, and democracy still lives here. Editorial writers sometimes get carried away by their own rhetoric.

On other occasions, Broder mocked those who suggested there was anything extremist or radical about Bush's "counter-terrorism" policies; hailed "Bush's conviction that the quest for freedom is a universal truth"; proclaimed his confidence in Donald Rumsfeld's pre-war Iraq plans; and compared 2002 war opponents to "Jane Fonda in Hanoi or antiwar protesters marching under Viet Cong flags."

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What Broder states today as fact (that the Bush presidency is "one of the darkest chapters of American history") is almost verbatim that which, when it mattered, when it was happening, he vehemently and repeatedly denied -- and, of course, given that he works in the most accountability-free profession of all (establishment punditry), he does not even have the minimal honesty to acknowledge that. Like so many of his colleagues, Broder played a critical role in defending these crimes and insisting that they were not taking place.

This is a crucial and oft-overlooked fact in the debate over whether we should investigate and prosecute Bush crimes. The very same pundits and establishment journalists who today are demanding that we forget all about it, not look back, not hold anyone accountable, are the very same people who -- like Broder -- played key roles in hiding, enabling and defending these crimes. In light of that, what is less surprising than the fact that, almost unanimously, these very same people oppose any efforts to examine what happened and impose accountability? Back in January, I wrote the following about the virtual unanimity among establishment media figures against investigations and prosecutions:

-snip-

Much more at:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:12 AM
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1. "demanding that we forget all about it" Exactly. K&R
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:14 AM
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2. Read the comments posted about Dimwit Davey's article!
Really, Davey needs to walk off into the sunset with Goliath!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:24 AM
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4. Just a few of the nearly thousand comments - most that I read, tearing the "Dean" a new one.
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Balzac wrote:
What an insulting article. On this reasoning, they shouldn't have prosecuted the Nazis because they were duly elected leaders who deliberated, estabished policy and implemented it until they were replaced by their successors.

Waging a war on false pretexts is a war crime. Lying to the US public and exploiting the worst atrocity on US soil since the civil war -- these are crimes of State. Using torture, secret renditions, lawless confinement in black holes and all the rest of it -- patent violations of US and international law.

Period. It is time to put these criminals where they belong, and GW first and foremost. It was his war, and he had his way with it.
4/25/2009 12:40:36 AM
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mgurbada909 wrote:
Mr Broder, even if it tears the Union asunder (again!), the policies of the Bush Administration demand a fair investigation. The honor of the country is at stake- if we shy away from our duty now, we will always regret it.
4/25/2009 12:36:05 AM
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Kingofkings1 wrote:
If "just following orders is not a crime", why did we recently deport an 80 some year old man from US to Europe because he was a guard at a nazi camp?
Why were the Nuremberg trials conducted for all participants in the Nazi regime and not just the architects of Nazi policy?
4/25/2009 12:35:03 AM
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dh458 wrote:
THEY BROKE THE LAW...what part of that statement don't you understand. A kid steals a candybar from a store, the kids BROKE THE LAW. On behalf of my son, who is on his 4th deployment - until you walk in his shoes (for the 4th time), STFU!
4/25/2009 12:34:44 AM
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CypressTree wrote:
"because these policies were carried out in the name of the American people, and it is only just that we the people confront what we did."

I don't care the least bit what was done in the "name of the American people." Torture is never justified. It disgraces the nation that so many of us love dearly. Believe it or not Shepherd Smith said it most eloquently: "We don't f@ucking torture!"
Furthermore, this isn't some slip-up that we should just overlook and move on from. These people (Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc.) were actively engaging in a deceptive campaign to hide the truth of their sickening practices. Justice as well as our country's good name deserve legal retribution.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:21 AM
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3. Americans need a little mystery in their lives
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:30 AM
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5. Excellent article


When poor and ordinary Americans who commit crimes are prosecuted and imprisoned, that is Justice.

When the same thing is done to Washington elites, that is Ugly Retribution.

Perfect quote.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:31 AM
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6. We Knew Broder Was Spineless...Now We Confirm He's Clueless
Whomever bestowed the term "Dean" on Broder (which was probably Broder himself) deserves to be flogged. This proves once and for all where this human mudflap truly lives...in fear and loathing. His "bipartisan" shtick was always a strawman as Democrats HAD to accomodate while rushpublicans need not as Democrats aren't really accomodating...and so the Broder circle jerk goes.

His vociferous "let move forward" bullshit proves he wants to wash his bloody hands with the rest of the booooshie enablers and if we dare to look back or question, we're some kind of "lynch mob". Rule of law, that meant so much about lying about a blowjob...and what do we tell the children. When it comes to lying about torture and destroying civil liberties and the Constitution...not so much.

But Broder is considered a deity...his word makes the beltway stenographers all warm and wobly. Thank goodness for a new generation of intrepid bloggers and journalists like Glenn who are out there to call this shitbag out.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:04 AM
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10. He's not clueless, he's DIRTY.
"Thank goodness for a new generation of intrepid bloggers and journalists like Glenn who are out there to call this shitbag out." :applause:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:42 AM
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7.  war crimes .... without a doubt
We beat people until they would "give up" a link between Iraq & 9/11 and from there we plunged headlong
into an unneeded and criminal war that has cost over 1,000,000 people their lives and at the same time we
let bin Laden get away. Mr. Broder and the "Washington Insiders" in the media are part of the problem not
part of the solution.


<The report found that Maj. Paul Burney, a United States Army psychiatrist assigned to interrogations in Guantánamo Bay that summer of 2002,
told Army investigators of another White House imperative: “A large part of the time we were focused on trying to establish a link between Al Qaeda
and Iraq and we were not being successful.” As higher-ups got more “frustrated” at the inability to prove this connection, the major said, “there
was more and more pressure to resort to measures” that might produce that intelligence.> F. Rich


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/opinion/26rich.html
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 08:46 AM
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8. I've come across neo-cons like David Broder on our local forums
Matter of fact this local East European immigrant is probably one of our
area's premier bloggers as it relates to the neo-cons and their misleading arguments.
The danger it seems is not so much his content as is his delivery.

Unlike his ranting raving spit dripping cohorts, he would seem to be
calm and reasoned. But of course, "Would Seem" is the operative
phase here because what he advocates as does Broder is extreme
neo-conservative philosophy. He leaves the rants and raves, The heavy
lifting of name calling, insults and cyber stalking to others,
Once again similar to Broder leaving this to FoxNews, Limbaugh etc.

It's very easy to become entangled in this web since most of us, Liberals
Progressives and Democrats are very passionate about what we have witnessed
these past eight years, That along with the certitude that nearly everything
we have said has panned out to be true, One detail after another we have been vindicated.

This in my mind is the danger of those such as Broder and our own east European
immigrant neo-con. We are passionate, We are determined and we are absolutely right and sometimes
that passion can make US look like the spit drippers to those who are just boarding the
truth express. I'm afraid that I myself am not very effective against such people.
My passion sometimes overloads my argument of truth. This is the danger I see in dealing
with these fifth column type neo-cons such as David Broder who are in reality nothing more
than a Joseph Goebbels propagandizing effort while masquerading as the lovable Mr. Rodgers :shrug:
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 08:50 AM
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9. War profiteering operation. The media helped.
From the Iraqi fraud and waste abuse investigator that couldn't do his job, because the US press didn't fulfill its function to help him fight this corruption. The media helped to keep secret:

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Holding a folder with documents pertaining to his unfinished investigations, he says, "Sometimes I can't sleep because of all this crime. Americans and Iraqis died because of this corruption. The Iraqi government is a group of criminal people who were supported by the Bush administration. I came here to tell American people the truth."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/05/boy-scout-baghdad

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:07 AM
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11. Used to call "helped" COLLABORATED in the old days. Link deserves its own thread. nt
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 08:36 PM
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14. I'm sitting here wondering what happened to the propagandists in the wake of WWII.
Were they invited to the party at Nuremberg, or were their's thrown at the local level and less formal? Are the talking heads liable, or just the M$M multi-nationals that employ them?

We know the names of the stalwart old-schoolers and many of the worst collaborators were promoted to positions of prominence within their organizations over the course of the previous maladministration, so what do we do? I know what I'd LIKE to do, but I'm sure that's illegal, regardless of the degree of treason committed.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:05 PM
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15. I always think of this photo by Henri Cartier-Bresson taken of a city denunciation of a collaborator
This one definitely made it to the local level:

from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/3536742.stm
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:45 PM
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16. Your image didn't make it over.
1)
2)
3)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:43 AM
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17. That's odd, it does for me. Thanks for your images though. nt
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:21 AM
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12. We can add...
David Gergen on CNN to that list..
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:22 AM
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13. Delete.
Edited on Mon Apr-27-09 11:22 AM by butterfly77
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