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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:29 AM
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Unique Strain: Is the Swine Flu Outbreak a Bio-Terror Attack? (See these 3 items)
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Unique Strain: Is the Swine Flu Outbreak a Bio-Terror Attack?
April 25, 2009


On 23 rd April 2009 the world began to become aware of a very strange new version of swine flu H1N1 in Mexico with limited cases in Texas and California. By the morning of the 24th of April, we began hear that there were hundreds of sick and 20 or so dead. By late in the day, we have learned that over 1,000 are now reported ill and over 60 are reported dead.

There are solid reasons to suspect that this new Mexican Swine Flu is NOT a naturally occurring event but instead is an Advanced Biological Warfare recombination DNA genetically engineered virus.

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The new Mexican Swine Flu has elements of DNA from the following: avian flu, human flu Type A, human flu Type B, Asian swine flu, and European swine flu. A strange combination never seen before and having less than 1/10% chance of being a natural event. Human and animal viruses from four or more continents suddenly recombine in a new flu during a non-flu season that spreads from human-to-human with a 10% fatality rating.

(NOTE - see 'missing epidemic flu viruses info from 2005 below)

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Over 1,000 reported infected in Mexico; true rate may be much higher. Mexico City seems to be the epicenter of the new virus. Mexico City has 20 million citizens, most terribly poor. Mexico City is notorious for its poor sanitation and public health. "Don't drink the water" has been the byword in Mexico City for decades. It is the perfect breading ground for an explosive growth of this new killer virus. Mexico City has closed all schools, public gatherings, public buildings. People are wearing medical masks on the streets. The government has announced a massive new emergency swine flu vaccination program that will be, at best, either totally non-effective or of very limited effect, and could be, at worst, a deadly option for patients. It is thought that the authorities are trying to contain public panic by announcing the vaccination program.

MUCH MORE PLUS COMMENTS HERE:
http://europebusines.blogspot.com/

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Security fears as flu virus that killed 50 million is recreated
Ian Sample, science correspondent
Thursday October 6, 2005

The Guardian

Undisclosed quantities of the virus are being held in a high-security government laboratory in Atlanta, Georgia, after a nine-year effort to rebuild the agent that swept the globe in record time and claimed the lives of an estimated 50 million people.

The genetic sequence is also being made available to scientists online, a move which some fear adds a further risk of the virus being created in other labs....

...The government and military researchers who reconstructed the virus say their work has already provided invaluable insight into its unique genetic make-up and helps explain its lethality. But other researchers warned yesterday the that virus could escape from the laboratory. "This will raise clear questions among some as to whether they have really created a biological weapon," said Professor Ronald Atlas at the centre for deterrence of biowarfare and bioterrorism at the University of Louisville in Kentucky.

Publication of the work and the filing of the virus's genetic make-up to an online database followed an emergency meeting last week by the US National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity, which concluded that the benefits of publishing the work outweighed the risks. Many scientists remained sceptical. "Once the genetic sequence is publicly available, there's a theoretical risk that any molecular biologist with sufficient knowledge could recreate this virus," said Dr John Wood, a virologist at the National Institute for Biological Standards and Control in Potters Bar.

FULL ARTICLE HERE:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1585977,00.html

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Labs scramble to purge virus
Samples sent out worldwide traced to 1957 pandemic
Thursday, April 14, 2005

Authorities are trying to work out how many labs got the samples.

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Authorities are doing everything possible to ensure samples of a killer influenza virus sent to more than 4,000 laboratories worldwide are destroyed before anyone becomes infected, a top U.S. disease expert says..

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On September 10, the College of American Pathologists sent samples of the virus that caused the "Asian flu" pandemic of 1957 to laboratories in 18 countries, including the United States and Canada.

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Dr. Jared Schwartz, a spokesman for the College of American Pathologists, which distributed the virus, acknowledged its distribution was a mistake.

He said records indicate the vendor knew it was sending a flu virus but apparently did not realize it was the deadly strain.

In addition to the United States and Canada, the other countries that got the panels are Bermuda, Belgium, Brazil, Chile, France, Germany, Israel, Italy, Japan, Lebanon, Mexico, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Singapore and Taiwan. It also went to Hong Kong.

FULL ARTICLE HERE:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/04/13/flu.recall/



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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:32 AM
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1. You can put your tin hat on
but the first thing I thought of was the anthrax from Ft. Dedrick - how the Bush's engineered that and that Cheney still has his fingers on all the buttons -

President Obama was in Mexico just when this stuff hit - maybe my conspiracy cells are working on overload but


IT SURE TOOK TORTURE OFF THE TABLE
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:40 AM
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3. No, it took it out of the headlines.
Shocking as it may be to you, there is a difference.
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:54 AM
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6. Sorry, I meant to say
out of the headlines...
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:52 AM
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4. Tin foil hat or no
The question is wetter the Cheney cabal would do this.
And my guess is yes because if they would torture then they are capable of killing too...and they have the motive and may have the ability.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:07 AM
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11. They have killed. Tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis. There is no question
in my mind that whatever outfit it is to which Cheney belongs and probably calls the shots, would do something like using a bioweapon to further his aims or protect himself. No doubt in my mind.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:53 AM
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5. Re Torture - that's exactly what I said when I sent this out in email to friends and fam:
Edited on Mon Apr-27-09 10:56 AM by cyberpj
Hey! Want to take all this discussion about the Bush Admin and TORTURE out of the news?....
Sorry...I'm way past believing there's anything the top world power mafias wouldn't do.
Stolen elections, fake terror attacks, unnecessary wars, looting the national treasury...
What's a little flu epidemic among friends as long as Obama gets the message...Don't mess with us.

ps - I've had my tin foil hat on since 9/11/01.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:56 AM
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7. Brings to mind the infamous 100 dead microbiologists list
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:38 AM
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2. Several DUers, knowledgable on these matters, have posted how this IS possible in nature
Might be good for people to check out some threads on how this may well be a naturally occurring combination of viruses.

Sure, it could be engineered. But that isn't the only way this can happen. Might be good not to get too paranoid just yet.

That said, I also don't put much past certain groups of people on the planet. Cheney, for example, seems to be devoid of inhibitions on what he would have done to maintain his power in the corporate world, and/or keep his own ass out of the Hague.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:58 AM
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8. 1/10% is a 1 in 1000 chance...
you don't know probablility if you think those are bad odds, given the number of pigs in Mexico City.

Sid
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:58 AM
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9. NO. But hey, how about starting a panic anyway!
Edited on Mon Apr-27-09 10:59 AM by L. Coyote
Not very useful post here!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:01 AM
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10. Pretty damned ineffective one if so.
Besides, Occam's Razor covers this one nicely.
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