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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 03:17 PM
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2000 new torture photos? Not as bad as Abu Ghraib photos? What happened to the videos?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/08/iraq/main616338.shtml

Rumsfeld: Worst Still To Come

Pentagon Boss Apologizes To Iraqis; Says More Videos, Photos Exist


May 7, 2004 | by Jarrett Murphy

This is what Lindsey Graham said to reporters as he was leaving along with every other US Senator who were brought in to view the photos and videotapes back in 2004:

<snip>Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told reporters, "The American public needs to understand we're talking about rape and murder here. we're not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience." He did not elaborate.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 03:20 PM
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1. Republicon Family Values
...are a freaking abomination.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 03:24 PM
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2. They Are History...
Ironically, this report is from Dec. 7, 2007:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/dec/07/usa.humanrights

The CIA destroyed video evidence of the coercive interrogation of al-Qaida operatives held under its secret rendition programme in order to shield agents from prosecution, it was revealed yesterday.
The decision to destroy two videotapes documenting the use of waterboarding against Abu Zubaydah and another high-value al-Qaida detainee was made in November 2005 - as American media were just beginning to focus on the existence of the secret CIA prison network.

"The tapes posed a serious security risk," the CIA's director, Michael Hayden, told agency employees in a statement yesterday. "Were they ever to leak, they would permit identification of your CIA colleagues who had served in the programme, exposing them and their families to retaliation from al-Qaida and its sympathisers."

Hayden's message to CIA employees went out a day after he learned that the New York Times planned to publish an article today about destruction of the videotapes.



Seems a lot of people around here forgot about that. But my bets are there are copies sitting in someone's desk marked "blackmail"...
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 03:50 PM
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7. I am pretty sure this evidence was being held by the Pentagon rather than the CIA
Edited on Mon Apr-27-09 04:18 PM by NNN0LHI
I may be wrong but thats the way I understand it.

Don
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 05:06 PM
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8. Interagency Rivalry...
It's always been there between the CIA and DOD...so I wouldn't doubt that both agencies not only covered their asses, but got some "stuff" on the other...just in case.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 03:34 PM
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3. Not to mention the console games for Playstation and PSP. n/t
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 03:39 PM
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4. If it's terrible, then isn't it torture?

"It's going to get a good deal more terrible, I'm afraid," he said glumly in congressional testimony televised throughout the Arab world as well as in the United States.


You can't have it both ways.

He said the Iraqis who were mistreated will receive compensation.


Compensation for what? A little fun, not any worse than his being on his feet all day in his office?

And who is he to be giving compensation anyway? Is he not out of office? I thought he was.

The fact that it's "going to get a good deal more terrible" means that it's probably pretty terrible and he knew about it the whole time.

That disgusts me.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 03:46 PM
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5. They are probably dead now anyway.
that was a lot of bombs ago.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 03:49 PM
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6. So, were people actually expecting to see torture/rape/child sodomy videos on CNN?!
Never happen for a host of obvious reasons.

Gotta keep this strictly as a "waterboarding" issue.
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