"Conservatives" Actually Celebrating Spectre Conversion

[Cary]

They view this as a good thing. It's some sort of purification or something.

I do not understand these people. They are completely out of there minds. I have dealt with people who have had traumatic brain injuries who are more rational and reasonable than these people.

Amazing. Truly amazing. The radical right has a death grip on the Republican Party and I don't see how they ever recover.

[provis99]

1. Ain't it great?

And to the fools on this board who adopt Greenwald's stance that this conversion is somehow bad for the Democrats I say, wake up, you idiots. There is no downside to Specter's jumping ship for our side.

[Mass]

7. Really? What about not being able to run a real Democrat in 2010.

That is a big downside to me.

[Occam Bandage]

16. Nothing stopping us, any more than a lack of DSCC funding stopped Lamont.

[Jack from Charlotte]

22. I agree and Spector has one year to act like a Dem or else....

a real Dem should primary him. But, in the mean time... we picked up a possible vote. And we're watching him. Arlen.... be a Dem or were coming to get your ass next year, pal.

[SacredCow]

15. I think it speaks volumes....

but I'd surely keep my guard up where he's concerned. His move, though symbolically meaningful and a great bitchslap to the GOP, is likely to be more for his own best intere$t$.

[girl gone mad]

36. Specter was facing a very tough Republican primary..

and we could very well have won that seat with a real D. Of course Republicans are celebrating. Why shouldn't they? Specter is damaged goods.

[enki23]

2. sour grapes. cognitive dissonance. i bet some of them actually believe their own bullshit.

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[sharp_stick]

3. It's going to take them a long time

to come back from this. Personally I'd like to see this actually spell the end of the Republican Party where the more moderate of the assholes that currently populate it are forced to form a new party.

That would cement a really long Democratic Governance so we can hopefully dig ourselved out of the mess we're in before they can run back in with all their idiotic Ayn Rand and Trickle Down Economic theories just to screw us all over again.

[NightWatcher]

4. sweet lemons rationalization at its finest

[fascisthunter]

5. sure they do

[tekisui]

6. They are a small minded party with nothing to offer.

They will cheer each other on until only the hate-mongering xenophobe tax-cutters are left. Oh wait, they are there now. The Purity Pukes! Cheering each other over the cliff.

[SacredCow]

8. I commented on that very thing earlier....

They're celebrating it as a victory for which they have been long fighting.

No matter what, their belief is that the main reason they have been circling the drain is that they haven't been conservative enough.

[JuniperLea]

9. Shallow spin...

They had to say something, right?

[Bluerthanblue]

17. i agree with you-

it's a facade.

:hi:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. I agree with them.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. They still think Terri Schiavo was a winner issue for them.

They only hang around with Flat-Earth Fundies who think Jesus rode a dinosaur, so they don't get that not everyone in America wants to put gays and women who use the pill to death by stoning.

[Lex]

12. Cheering their purification right into oblivion and powerlessness.

nt

[Warpy]

13. It's a cult that becomes more fringe every day

Whether or not the party survives it is moot.

My guess is that it will be a repeat of the demise of the Whigs. After years of being out of power with the Democratic Republican party having a lock on all offices, that large party found irreconcilable differences within itself and split into the two parties we have today.

Likely the Democrats will split in the future. Whether the new party is Social Democrats or something right wing remains to be seen.

[Occam Bandage]

14. Quite a few DUers are whimpering about how it harms our purity.

And quite a few of us wanted to see Lieberman jump ship. Lieberman, of course, votes with our party about 30% more often than Specter voted with his.

[John Q. Citizen]

20. Our party, not our purity. Heck, i know there are Dems who would welcome W if he said he wanted to

switch parties.

i wouldn't be one of them, and then would be accused of excessive purity.

That's life in the ghetto I guess.

[John Q. Citizen]

18. I think in the long run this will help the Repos. that's why they are happy.

It makes it look like if the kinder and gentler George W Bush switched parties, we'd welcome him with open arms.


It makes it look like the pursuit of power is our highest goal.

That's my opinion.

[Occam Bandage]

19. Yes, declaring that moderates aren't welcome in your party always leads to success.

Why, the Republicans are getting more and more successful since their peak in moderate approval in '04.

[John Q. Citizen]

28. How do you construe offering a clear path to re-election as a Dem with not

declaring moderates aren't welcome?

Anybody can register as a Democrat. Even Specter. If he wants to do that, more power to him.

However, promising Specter institutional support for his re-election if he switches is going to hurt our party in the long run for extremely minor short term gains.

Smells like bribery to me, and i would venture it does also to moderates, lefties, and righties.


When the Repos can consistently say that Obama doesn't even have the support of the Democrats, and be accurate about that, then that will help the Repos.

Specter could vote with the Dems if he supports our goals with out a quid pro quo to get him to switch parties.

[Cary]

25. I don't see how it helps them, ever.

They believe that Democrats will fuck everything up and then people will somehow magically beg them to take over again. Who do they think these Democrats are?

It's bizarre. Downright bizarre, through the looking glass stuff.

[John Q. Citizen]

35. When Democrat Specter stands up in the Senate and opposes Obama's legislation, the

Repos will say, see, even the Dems feel he's too radical and out of touch.

Or are you under the impression the Specter is switching party's because of ideology?

He's not. He's switching because he almost lost 4 years ago in the Repo primary against the guy who is beating him right now in the polls.

I have zero problem with Specter switching parties and running as a Dem if he wants to. It's supposedly a free country after all.

I have a problem with the fact that the Dems leadership apparently offered him a quid pro quo to switch parties in return for primary support in 2010. That will hurt us.

[NYCGirl]

21. It's called "whistling past the graveyard." NT

[WCGreen]

23. So much for Jim DeWitt(less) claim that the GOP stands for Freedom and Freedom

is a big tent...

[Xolodno]

24. Even Spector said...

there was something of the lines of a purification going on in the Republican Party.

They are on some delusional belief that they need to be ideologically pure and the whole of the populace will then embrace them. They are betting everything Obama and the Democratic Congress does will implode. There business plan is essentially, Phase 1 - collect underpants, Phase 2 - , Phase 3 - Profit!

[Cary]

34. Pretty much. n/t

[Cha]

26. Good, the fascists can "celebrate"

norm coleman losing, too.

[Lyric]

27. We celebrated when LIEberman left, too.

:shrug:

It's really not surprising.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

29. They'd rather be "pure" than relevant?

I'd love to see them purify themselves right out of any sort of meaningful power.

:eyes:

[Cary]

31. You've been seeing exactly that. n/t

[yowzayowzayowza]

30. Bet they quit ragging on Collins & Snowe post haste. n/t

[Cary]

32. Not the ones I've been talking to.

Why do I talk to them? Hell if I know.

To use one of their metaphors, staring at the highway accident as I drive by?

[Puzzler]

33. They've got to come up with some kind of positive spin...

... no matter how desperate.