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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 05:26 PM
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Should Obama Really Raise Funds and Campaign for Specter
Should Obama really raise funds and campaign for Senator Specter? It seems to me that Specter is just using the Democratic Party. He only left the Republican Party because he learned that he most likely would not win the Republican primary. In addition, it seems that a really strong Democrat may lose out on money due to Specter running in the primary and Obama campaigning and fundraising for Specter.

In my opinion Obama should not raise funds and campaign for Specter. As I said I think a really strong Democrat may lose out due to this happening. In addition, I do not like this in that Obama will be campaiging for a guy who only switched to the Democratic Party because he wanted to win. As a result, some person who really believes in the Democratic Party might get hurt. Some person who worked hard for the Democratic Party and worked for Obama may lose the chance to run in the general election. Someone who actually believes in the ideas of John F. Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama may be pushed aside for someone who does not. Someone who really believes in the ideas of the Democratic Party may lose out. Finally, after all that has happened Specter may lose the general election. It would not just be that Specter lost; it would be that Specter lost and some other Democrat did not get a chance to run.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 05:32 PM
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1. A deal is a deal
Of course he was assured that he'd be treated as one of us. I have no problem with that.
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 06:17 PM
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9. What
about Specter's deal with the Pepublic party? Are you suggesting he had no such deal?
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:54 AM
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11. They were going to vote for Toomey
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 08:55 AM by sampsonblk
That pretty much voids the deal, don't you think?

Unlike Lieberman, Specter hadn't campaigned against his own party or anything. They were going to wack him. But he got them first.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 05:36 PM
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2. Absolutely! Specter should be welcomed with open arms and great applause.
There were times in the Bush Administration when I found myself agreeing with Specter. I was agreeing with him more and more. I think The Bush Administration has caused Arlen to reevaluate his values. He has found his values to be more in line with Democrats than Republicans. I can believe that because I've seen him go through the process. This is pretty much how I became a Democrat after Nixon. Just like Arlen Specter I didn't change. The Republican party did. Those values that once caused me to join the republican party we being championed by Democrats and the Republicans were opposed. The Republicans have survived putting a crook in the White House before. We can't allow them to do it again. If they get away with it AGAIN. Putting a crook in the White House to set the country on it's ear will be part of the 30 year plan for them.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 05:40 PM
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3. We accept and tolerate the Blue Dogs

Specter is just another one.

Even if he's a selfish asshole who needs to be defeated during the Democratic primary.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 05:46 PM
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4. You forget there are lots of "Reagan Democrats" in Pennsylvania and they like Specter
EOM
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 05:56 PM
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5. Let's wait and see how he votes with the issues
Changing jackets means jack shit if you still vote in the Red Zone. I think Specter should be forced into hot button issues like single payer healthcare - and see where the rubber hits the road, so to speak.

He's got a LOT to prove here.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 05:57 PM
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6. That depends upon whether or not Specter really does support the Dem agenda
or not.
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NowHearThis Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 06:05 PM
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7. Often, it's difficult to tell the difference in party agendas.
President Obama seems to be continuing many of Bush's agenda items. Changing metaphors and playing with semantics doesn't change the fact that U.S. Iraq war policies (complete with ever-growing corporate welfare for select U.S. corporations) are essentially
the same now as they were three months ago. Ditto many other issues (bailouts etc.).
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 10:46 PM
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10. I find the premise of your post
absurd, sorry.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 06:14 PM
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8. If Specter holds up his end between now and the elections... Hell yes.
He gives us our votes, we let him keep his job. 95% of what a Senator is good for is votes, we get them we're good. And it would be tasteless to greet his switch to our side with open arms now then turn around and give him the ax at the first opportunity as thanks.

On the other hand, if he spends the next year and a half being a constant obstruction and the only thing he changes is the letter beside his name, then sure, knock him off.
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