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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:26 AM
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Conservative Catholic Groups Fueling Obama Notre Dame Scandal
Within hours of the news that President Barack Obama would give the commencement address to this year’s graduates of Notre Dame University in South Bend, Ind., angry opponents of the decision founded a new Website, NotreDameScandal.com, where they could register their complaints and sign a petition asking the school to "halt this travesty."

"Notre Dame has chosen prestige over principles, popularity over morality," reads the petition. "Whatever may be President Obama’s admirable qualities, this honor comes on the heels of some of the most anti-life actions of any American president, including expanding federal funding for abortions and inviting taxpayer-funded research on stem cells from human embryos." Within days, tens of thousands of people had signed on.

"Virtually every media story for the first few weeks of this scandal cited our site and our petition," said Patrick Reilly, the president and founder of the Cardinal Newman Society, in an interview with TWI. "There’s tremendous outpouring of support for the students who are opposing this outrage at Notre Dame. Some of them have said they’ll have nothing to do with Notre Dame if this goes forward."

After eight years of only occasional disagreements with a Republican president, conservative Catholic activists have moved into the trenches to oppose Obama. They cite his repeal of the Mexico City rule, or "global gag rule" that banned providing federal money to international groups that promote or provide abortions, his stem cell compromise, and his cabinet nominees like Kathleen Sebelius, the pro-choice governor of Kansas, to argue that he is the most pro-abortion rights politician ever to ascend to the job. They are bolstered by new media outlets and organizations that did not exist at their current strength in 2000, the last time Catholics had to contend with a pro-choice president. At the same time, they’re encouraged by a series of high-profile statements from church leaders on political morality–including the 2004 declarations by bishops that they would deny communion to then-presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), and Pope Benedict XIV’s 2005 speech attacking the "dictatorship of relativism." A small number of conservative groups, and a more newsworthy group of conservative bishops — 42 so far — are turning the Notre Dame speech into a watershed moment, while obscuring the fact that the president enjoys majority support from Catholics.

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The biggest problem for conservative Catholics has not been getting the Obama speech portrayed in the press as a scandal, but in distancing from some of the people trying to take ownership of the outrage. Randall Terry, the anti-abortion activist who converted to Catholicism in 2006, has moved temporarily to South Bend to mount protests against the school. Reilly, Neumayr and others accused Terry of being a trouble-maker and self-promoter whose effort–more than 30 full-time agitators, 50,000 letters to alumni that include postcards depicting dead fetuses, bringing fringe political candidate Alan Keyes to speak, and planning a rumored "alternate commencement for Notre Dame Heroes"–makes them look fringe. In an interview Terry said that American bishops were "directly responsible for Obama’s election" because they hadn’t spoken out against him politically. "The fabric of Notre Dame’s treachery was woven by American bishops," said Terry, who also called Georgetown University “a house of political harlotry” for allowing Obama and Vice President Biden to speak there.

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http://washingtonindependent.com/40303/few-conservative-catholic-groups-fuel-obama-notre-dame-scandal
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:29 AM
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1. Anti life..........and they've got a Pope who's a Nazi.
Wonder how they rationalize that in their little minds?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:45 AM
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2. be careful when you point that out ... besides, it was Hitler Youth ...
I got slapped when I pointed it out ...

remember, these are the people who keep reminding us that Byrd was a KKK member in his youth, and that should disqualify him from anything positive about race (despite the fact that he denounced his KKK ties and decades ago fought for the issues) ... but say that a position held by a Republican up to a few years ago can't be held against him ...

:silly:
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teachthemwell15 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:48 AM
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7. seriously, zbednt...
Physically slapped?

That's serious and scary. When things get physical, and I took your statement as just that, violence is just around the corner, beginning with incidents such as yours.

That some believe that all they have to do is physical assail others who disagree with them is telling in their desperation and the lies they dispel. Sounds like tyical catholic/fundamentalist school tactics to scare the shit out of students in believing their crap!

Sorry to have digressed from the OP but this is indeed disturbing!!






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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:54 PM
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8. sorry ... should have been specific ...
"virtually" slapped here on DU ...
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:13 AM
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3. My hubbie is a ND Grad and received a packet in the mail:
Hand written envelope postmarked from South Bend from Randall Terry w the following enclosures:

* A sheet entitled "In Search of ND Grads to Stand for Life, Truth and Justice" which state their primary mission is:

"Cancel President Obama, Replace ND President Jenkins and rescue Notre Dame."

their secondary mission (MY CAPS):

"TO SO CONNECT PRESIDENT OBAMA TO CHILD-KILLING IN AMERICAN MINDS, SO THAT IF HE RUNS AGAIN IN 2012, HE CANNOT SEDUCE CATHOLICS AND EVANGELICALS AGAIN; TO CREATE SUCH A FIRESTORM THAT OTHER CATHOLIC COLLEGES SHY AWAY FROM HONORING THOSE WHO PROMOTE MURDER"

(Of course there is no mention of Bush's war which caused hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths without basis)

*Postcards that say " Would you invite Pilate After he condemned Christ?" with pictures of Christ , Fr Jenkins, Obama and of course a dead baby.

WHAT A F-ING KOOK!

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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:00 AM
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4. I'll grant them this much.....
They know how to whip up the Catholic fundie base into a frenzy.

I got an e-mail from a family member, asking me to support the petition against Obama.

They have some sort of activist mailing list or something...but the reality is they get their members to try to push their cause. They are organized.

So where was their outrage when Bush started a war based on non-existent WMD's? Where is their outrage over the torture that was done under the Bush administration?

They only seem to express outrage when it comes to the abortion issue.

(Also, take a look at their website -- they seem to have money. Where is the money coming from?)
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:38 AM
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5. Have these conservative Catholics ever condemned the Bush torture policy?
Or is torture considered a Catholic value, given that the Inquisitors pretty much invented waterboarding and some of the other methods?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:28 PM
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9. The Inquistion - Part XXXXXXVI - Same anti-Christ mindset
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:23 AM
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6. we need to get moderate and liberal Catholics on the microphone
to say these people do not represent us. We must stop the silence in the pews. We got JFK elected president by promising not to follow the Pope's line in politics. Our Catholic participation in American politics is predicated on the fact that the Pope does not call the shots. European and Asian countries do not have the same emphasis on right to life and politics in their forms of Catholicism. Just America.
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