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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:12 AM
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Sen. Graham: I'm calling Ridge Wed. about running against Specter
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/04/29/sen-graham-im-calling-ridge-wed-about-running-against-specter/

Sen. Graham: I'm calling Ridge Wed. about running against Specter
@ 8:44 am by Jeremy P. Jacobs


Sen. Lindsey Graham suggested Tuesday night that he will court former Pennsylvania Republican Gov. Tom Ridge to run against Sen. Arlen Specter next year now that Specter has switched to the Democratic Party.

Graham, a South Carolina Republican, plans to start with a phone call to Ridge on Wednesday.

In an interview with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News' "On the Record," Graham said he believes Ridge could appeal to moderate Republicans and independents in Pennsylvania, perhaps more than former Congressman Pat Toomey, the Republican former president of the conservative Club for Growth who is already running in the Senate contest.

"We just need to get candidates that can relate to people in different regions of the country. I hope Pat Toomey can do that, but I think Tom Ridge could," Graham said. "The former governor of Pennsylvania is a social moderate, fiscal conservative, former Homeland Security secretary. I don't know if he'd run or not, but people.'

The specter of Ridge running was raised quickly yesterday upon news of Specter's defection from the GOP. Ridge, who served as a two-term governor in the mid-1990s and in the House before that, has always been considered politically ambitious. His name was floated as a possible running mate to former President George W. Bush in 2000 and GOP nominee John McCain (Ariz.) last year.

Graham went on to say he plans to reach out to Ridge Wednesday. "I'm going to call Tom Ridge tomorrow," Graham said.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:14 AM
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1. Good. Lots of pictures and film of Ridge and Boosh together...
Ridge has been contaminated with the Boosh stink :)

Sid
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:14 AM
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2. Mmmmmm....Republican Civil War.....
:popcorn:
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:16 AM
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3. I'm gonna TELL!
I get this picture in my mind of Lindsay as an obnoxious little girl, ready to go tattle to the teacher.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:16 AM
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4. But can he help "purify" the party?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:18 AM
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5. Good! Pro-choice Ridge will get beat like a drum by Toomey in the GOP primary.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:01 AM
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21. Pro-choice Ridge beat several pro-live candidates for the GOP gubernatorial nomination
That was when he was virtually unknown outside of NW PA.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:06 AM
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25. When was that? Do you really think that'll happen in 2010?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:27 PM
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35. Yes, considering that Ridge is much more well-known and popular now
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:18 AM
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6. Well you go ahead and just dial yourself into a dither, Lindsey.
Ridge knows that he's not the legislator type. He knows that even if he won, which is far from certain, he'd have to negotiate constantly with the likes of people who are more agile and informed on every single issue than he is.

A loss would bloody him up at a point in his career when he needs to be store-front window polished. There's no assurance that he could defeat Toomey in a GOP primary or that Toomey would just roll over and play dead if Ridge got in.

The Senate is not his venue. He'd have to feel that he could outwit and outflank people like Barbara Boxer and Russ Feingold. He'd enter as a freshman senator with little clout and minimal influence.

He likely considers himself to have gotten out of the fray while he's "ahead," and could roll in a whole lot more money as a consultant.


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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:23 AM
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7. Andrea Greenspan
(who used to cover PA politics) said that Ridge would be a good candidate (of course Andrea), but that she doesn't think PA voters would accept him in a Republican primary.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:26 AM
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9. So did Smerkonish on Tweety yesterday. Today's meme from
talking heads, because the r/w pols don't have a clue.
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TimesSquareCowboy Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:11 AM
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11. That's a good point - a copy of Specter won't overcome the problem Specter saw.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:23 AM
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8. Lol - suddenly a pro-choice candidate doesn't look so much like the devil.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:49 AM
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15. which one are you refering to? Ridge and Specter are both pro-choice
A group of Catholics tried to get Ridge ex-communicated because Ridge is a pro-choice catholic
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:02 PM
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29. I meant Ridge - the right-wing wouldn't consider him as a running mate for McCain...
...but with Specter's switch the game suddenly looks different.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:36 AM
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10. Maybe he can come up with one of those fancy color charts to illustrate
the level of Republican fear brought on by a Dem majority. :scared:

different shades of blue would be nice.


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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:47 AM
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23. oh, I forgot about those stupid charts
where have they been? :eyes:

Dumbest.Thing.Ever.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:57 PM
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39. I'm picturing hilarious colored-coded charts to use against him in campaign ads...
if it were to come to that. Duct tape, too. They'd have to be done just right, though, so as to turn off only the intended audience.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:20 AM
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12. so who will be the democrat in that race, if 2 republicans are running? nt
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:45 AM
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13. I doubt Ridge could win a Republican primary in PA now.
The Rep Party there is officially in wing nut territory at the moment.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:48 AM
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14. Yes but Ridge was a popular 2-term moderate governor in Pennsylvania
Mind you under Bush, i think Zombies ate his brains. But as governor he worked from the middle - he was pro-unions and pro-choice.

He would be serious competition against Specter. And on the side of irony, if Ridge won they'd be stuck with another "Specter Republican" but this one is young enough to sever a couple of terms.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:54 AM
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18. He has to beat Toomey first. That would be his problem and is why he won't run.
Ridge won 2 terms because he was a moderate. He can't win the Republican nomination for Senator as a moderate. The only way he beats Toomey is to go wing nut himself, which would doom him in the general election against Specter.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:51 AM
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16. Does Graham know Ridge is a, a, a, SOCIALIST? He's a HUGE supporter of PUBLIC
libraries, even given a Politician of the Year award by the American Library Association!


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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:54 AM
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19. Does Graham know that Ridge is very Pro-Choice
not kidding you!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:09 PM
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32. Oh--I even forgot that! I knoiw that's true. nt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:54 AM
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17. There's only one problem with that Mr. Graham - and that's Pat Toomey
Honestly, Ridge could give Arlen Specter a serious run for his money because those 2 are pretty much identical when it comes to political ideologies. Put them both in a race competing against each other and I think Specter would have a major challenge in front of him. Ridge was a popular 2-term governor here in PA (yes I voted for him once but only because I didn't want another anti-choice democrat after Casey Sr was out of there. BTW Casey Jr is not as harsh when it comes to choice has his old man).

But we still have Pat Toomey running for office and when it's republican only - there are enough idiot right-wing fundies out there who will back Toomey and give the republicans the win.

The leaders of the republican party want one of their own in that seat and it's Pat Toomey. If they accept Tom Ridge as their candidate instead it's basically admiting they fucked up with Specter and they would be willing to accept a 'Specter Jr' like Ridge to keep the seat republican.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:56 AM
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20. Watch for the national Republicans to put pressure on PA Reps to ditch Toomey.
This is going to be fun.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:12 AM
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22. They'll give up one of their own to bring a clone of Specter to run against Specter
:rofl:

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:15 PM
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33. I don't credit the current bunch with that much smarts. They need to focus locally
but Steele hasn't the smarts or the savvy.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 10:52 AM
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24. No love for Rick Santorum?
I'm shocked, I tell you.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:10 AM
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26. Fuck Specter: Make the pledge to support a real progressive...
to run against him in the primaries.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-support-a-real-progressive-against-Arlen-Specter/76951643702

http://openleft.com/diary/13081/would-you-step-up-to-help-a-progressive-challenger-to-specter

If there is a potential progressive challenger to Arlen Specter in Pennsylvania, they are probably scratching their head right now asking, "Would I have any chance at all if I ran, or is the fix in?"

What can progressives to do create an environment where this person feels they can run?

Legally, we can't put money in a pot for a fictional candidate. But we can pledge now that if a real progressive steps up, we'll get their back.

So, here's a little experiment. I just created a Facebook fan page (like a Facebook group) called "I support a real progressive against Arlen Specter."

People who join are pledging to give at least $25 to a credible progressive challenger who steps up. It'll either succeed or flop -- and that will solely be determined by whether the energy is there for people to join and pass it along to their friends.


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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:42 AM
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27. I guess we are suppose to be afraid..
Ridge is another joke. I use to crack up at him as he first began in working in the Bush adm he was uninformed and they have been puffing him up for a few years now as though,he is some great savior..
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:50 AM
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28. tom ridge? homeland security buffoon? bring 'im on
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:16 PM
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30. He was an idiot when working for Bush but...
he was actually pretty decent as governor
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:36 PM
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31. What's the color code for the liklihood of Ridge running?
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:21 PM
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34. Duct tape and plastic sheets man? Too much Bush baggage
Let the GOP flame out in PA. Ridge won't get enough votes to win the Repub. nomination, imo.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:30 PM
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36. the repub leadership realize he's more electable statewide than Toomey
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:32 PM
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37. They may be assuming Ridge would garner independent votes
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 02:33 PM by livetohike
but I heard Gov. Rendell say a while ago that no one would beat Specter. I wonder if that applies to Spector running as a Dem. too. :shrug:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:48 PM
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38. While Specter will be hard to be beat by anyone
Ridge could possibly pull it off if the repub base holds their nose and votes for him and enough Democrats sit out the election. The key would be the independents, who could divide fairly evenly.

If Toomey is the candidate, the repubs will have no trouble getting out the base, but the independent vote would be more solidly in Specter's column and more Democrats would show up if for no other reason that to ensure Toomey didn't win.
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