Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Specter Jump is Good, Very Good.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:12 PM
Original message
The Specter Jump is Good, Very Good.
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 02:24 PM by Jackpine Radical
The so-called "center" of American politics (as defined by the media and the politicians, not the people) has been pushed so far to the right that Specter can actually make a reasonable case for being a moderate in today's climate. Greenwald's list--"the war on Iraq, the Military Commissions Act, Patriot Act renewal, confirmation of virtually every controversial Bush appointee, retroactive telecom immunity, warrantless eavesdropping expansions, and Bush tax cuts--" is one on which a lot of Democrats soiled themselves every bit as much as Specter did. And no, the "talk left, vote right" thing was not lost on me either, but I could envision a case in which Specter was forced to vote against his articulated ideals by a Republican Party dominated by thugs who could have qualified for supporting roles in the Godfather movies.

Interesting things have happened in the past in the minds of people who jumped like Specter did. Suddenly, without the counterweight of Republicanism, they find their hearts and votes drifting steadily leftward.

And remember, too, that Specter was elected in '92 largely on the basis of talk about health care reform legislation. This may not be the worst time to have him on our side.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:13 PM
Response to Original message
1. a m e n
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:26 PM
Response to Original message
2. If we demand that our leaders become ideologicaly pure to left ideas
or liberal ideas than we are as guilty of the same thing Specter is trying to get away from.

I remember 1994 when we lost congress, it can happen again if we demand litmus tests of our leaders just as the right is doing now.


We need to realize that the majority of voters conceder themselves centrists and independents or swing voters. We can't afford to take the country to the extreme left no more than we can afford to take it to the extreme right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. The Dems won Congress in 2006 on a 'liberal' idea
They pandered to the overwhelming ANTI-WAR sentiment among the populace.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Not all Democrats are pure left, so the republicans have the
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 02:53 PM by life_long_dem
checks and balances that they claim don't exist anymore. For the time being, the republicans have become even more useless.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 07:35 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC