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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:13 PM Original message |
I am confused about this Miss California incident... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. Different strokes for different folks. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
104. nice example of a straw man |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. INCOMING!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Deleted message |
foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Well, I guess that eliminates straight women from judging future pageants. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I don't think that's the reason he doesn't belong |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
81. good answer. Before this flap I never knew who Perez Hilton was. It's only |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. totally off-topic, but Amiga? 500? Really? |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. actually, the contestants look like drag queens |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
70. IMO...most drag queens look better... |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 05:18 AM Response to Reply #70 |
98. I was in a beauty pageant when I was 19 |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
48. Surely that is sarcasm. Please tell me that is sarcasm. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Looks like ignorance with a touch |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
64. CYA, Amiga. Thanks for playing. (nt) |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
67. You're joking. Right? -eom |
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shellgame26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
68. That statement has got to be |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. it's not her response as much as what she is doing after the stupid pageant |
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Old Hank (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. She was criticized even before becoming a spokesman |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. Ok. What's your defense of Carrie Prejean. I'd honestly like to read it. (nt) |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
88. The judges had a perfect right to base their judgement on her answer. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 03:46 AM Response to Reply #33 |
94. And if she had (on stage) espoused white/white marriage, black/black marriage etc, in HER country? |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
79. Allowing Perez Hilton to become the face of the marriage equality movement is |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 06:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
101. In all fairness |
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madaboutharry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. This is how I see it: |
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Amiga500 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. "Also, the topless pictures surely aren't helping her!" That's a strawman. |
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madaboutharry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. "Zoo WeeKly" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. Deleted message |
Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Beauty Queens are certainly prepared to handle questions. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Interesting, I didn't realize that. (n/t) |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Glad I could help. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. From what I have heard, she wasn't the top pick before she answered |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
71. Oh, please.... |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Oh, I totally agree. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:37 AM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Sorry....I was not clear.... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
63. Miss California is a bigot, a cheater and reneged on a legally binding contract. |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. +1 |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Out of curiousity, how do you feel towards the views... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #72 |
102. Yes, I believe Obama and Hillary are bigoted about gay marriage. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. The link is to a web page called.... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. "The civil unions he proposes grant all the rights of marriage." -- no, they don't |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. That is an interesting point... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #63 |
78. The contest obviously doesn't require for the women to |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
111. The answer to that is in the text, not the SL; rider explains it pretty clearly. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 04:13 AM Response to Reply #63 |
97. Oh snap! |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
69. Do you believe civil equality and gay lives are a matter of political correctness?! |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. Um, neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama have become spokespersons for "National Organization |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. She is ignorant. She just gives Christianity more of a bad name. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. Surely we have more worthwhile targets for our ire. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama and Hillary aren't campaigning against the legalization of same sex marriage |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Agree but Obama and Hillary are trying to appear to support both sides of a divisive, polarizing |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. they are supporting Democrats around the country who are legalizing same sex marriage |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Why is CA's GL community still mad because Obama's statement helped |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. you are confused, Prop 8 was opposed to same sex marriage |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Sorry, Obama said on national TV "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. i'm not spinning his position, i'm not denying he said he opposes it |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. OK many believe that means Obama is trying to appear to support both sides of the issue. n/t |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. delete |
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Psychic Consortium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. People on the wrong side of history right now will not fare well.... |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't know if it was a setup... |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
9. She drew the question out of a glass bowl |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. So which part are you finding confusing? |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
11. I think she is as well |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. "We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite marriage," |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
14. She's merely a pawn. A poor innocent who knows not what she does. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
45. I don't know what other photos show, but the one posted of her |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Other than Janet Jackson's Rolling Stone cover, I don't know what you're talking about. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Have you never seen swimsuit issues of Sports Illustrated? |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Hello? Sports? Nekkid womens? I have teh gay. :^) |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #62 |
77. Parading around in a tiny bikini is obviously a manner becoming |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:06 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Whether or not she loses her crown doesn't concern me. But she's no innocent pawn. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 03:56 AM Response to Reply #77 |
95. Perhaps being a hateful bigot is a greater offense than having a couple of breasts. |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. I have more problem with a long term DUer posting that they support |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
16. I have more problem with a long term DUer posting that they support |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 04:02 AM Response to Reply #46 |
96. As long as the words are different, the status will be. = but different is fail. We already |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
18. I don't think it's as much about WHAT her opinion was than in HOW she expressed it. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. she was raised to think it's ok to pose naked for attention, fame, money etc |
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Old Hank (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. I was surprised when I saw that 73% of Americans viewed her answer as "good" |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. I have a hard time taking that at face value. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 05:28 AM Response to Reply #58 |
99. Indeterminate Discipline??? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #99 |
109. Thank you, sir. I was, of course, being euphemistically kind. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Absolutely Correct! |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
20. I think all three are dead wrong. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
24. Wonder how she would have answered if asked about DADT |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
27. I really don't give a crap what she or Perez Hilton think about anything. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
34. How well did "seperate but equal" work before? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Good point! (n/t) |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
43. Um.... they are all wrong. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
51. 42 gun salute |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. and be TS'd |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Iverglas, it's good to see your post... |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #51 |
87. See post #85. |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
52. Uh. *why*?!1 n/t |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. My confusion was based on the reaction to her answer... |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:08 AM Response to Reply #61 |
86. See post #85. |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
55. I suspect your "smeller" is accurate...... |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
60. the poor poor Xian girl |
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pepperbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
73. Whatever happened to "I want to save the world and then complete my communications degree?" |
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t0dd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
75. I think the real question is... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I'll put my money on Hillary. (n/t) |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:20 AM Response to Reply #75 |
89. . |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
80. It's easier to bash some dumb girl than Obama |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:07 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. To be clear, the important backlash started when she claimed she lost the title based on some PC |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:20 AM Response to Reply #85 |
90. "but it is not entirely equivalent in situation" |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:29 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Well, we agree on the non-equivalency, but I would disagree that no one is willing to criticize |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:44 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Good, I find that encouraging |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
83. Thank you for this post ^rec ~ |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
93. The frontal lobe isn't developed until 24 |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #93 |
107. Now that would be one wild and crazy island... |
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Rebellious Republican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 06:04 AM Response to Original message |
100. For those not paying attention to the original post its real simple... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #100 |
110. "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade" ... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
103. Oppose bigotry. |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
108. The lesson to learn here is that if you are asked your opinion on something |
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