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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:28 PM
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Donald Trump, Miss California, and Barack Obama
Donald Trump, Miss California, and Barack Obama
by John Aravosis (DC) on 5/12/2009 02:51:00 PM

I know it sounds like the bad beginning of an even worse joke. And you're tired of hearing about the wicked witch of the west coast. But this is really a story about Barack Obama and whether he's smart enough to avoid the coming buzz saw.

Today, Donald Trump - who is possibly the only person in America a bigger media whore than Miss California (well, okay, not counting Chuck Schumer) - jumped in to the fray and invoked Barack Obama, no less, in an effort to defend (read: get some of the media attention himself) the beauty queen turned religious right pin-up girl who simply wants a chance to flash her breasts for Jesus.

In a press conference with the embattled Miss California, Trump invoked President Obama to the beauty queen's defense. Specifically, Trump - and Miss C herself - both cites Obama's supposed views on gay marriage:

At a press conference addressing Carrie Prejean’s disputed title in the Miss USA competition, pageant owner Donald Trump compared Prejean’s stated views on gay marriage to Obama’s.

“It's the same answer that the president of the United States gave,” Trump said. “She gave an honorable answer. She gave an answer from her heart.”

In her own remarks moments later, Prejean echoed Trump’s statement, telling reporters: “The president of the United States, the secretary of state, and many Americans agree with me in this belief.”


Let's put aside for a moment the utter idiocy of Trump's comments. The controversy isn't about Miss California being anti-gay. It's about her posing for nudie photos and lying about it, and about her joining up as a spokesperson for an organization just this side of a hate group, while shirking her official duties as Miss California. And, is Trump now saying that no future pageant judge can vote against a contestant if she invokes God in her answer and the judge disagrees? But hey, far be it for me to get between Donald Trump, a blonde's fake breasts, and a camera...

MORE AT:
http://www.americablog.com/2009/05/donald-trump-miss-california-and-barack.html
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:31 PM
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1. Just great
It's too bad Obama said what he did about "one man one woman," because it keeps being harped on by the bigotry community.

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:39 PM
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3. Why is it too bad, though? She's correct; he does support bigotry with regard to marriage equality.
(Obviously, too bad for us gays and lesbians who were hoping for a president who would do a lot more or at least support us more.)
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:42 PM
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4. Not disagreeing with you - those are Obama's words
And they are being used as a club to beat the gay community.

I hope President Obama comes around one day and supports full equality for all people.

In the meantime, civil unions are far better than nothing - but by no means would I equate this "seperate but equal" institution to marriage.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:56 PM
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7. But he did.
Obama is as entitled to his opinion as Miss Calif. is to hers.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:36 PM
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2. I say President Obama is a lot smarter than
the attention whores, donald trump and carrie prejean, who together are trying to make her staying on about Gay Marriage instead of her lying about her stupid fake boob shots and her hate.

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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:43 PM
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5. she's trying to drag Obama into her bullshit
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:44 PM
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6. Indeed - and he made it easy for the enemies of GLBT rights to do that
He should have never uttered the one man one woman BS, but here we are now. I think one day he will come around.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:57 PM
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8. She really doesn't have to try all that hard, does she?
After all, Obama agrees with her on the essentials, doesn't he? His Christian belief that marriage is one-man-one-woman? Nice of him to open us to all kinds of attacks from nuts like this.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 03:18 PM
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9. Obama's remarks are used to bash us on this board.
Every time there's a thread on the "one man-one woman" BS some troll drops in to point out that Obama said the same thing, but nobody calls him bigoted. Well, I do. His position is bigoted and is as bad as Silicone Barbie's. Just because we take some other person to task for their bigotry doesn't mean that we condone bigotry when it comes from Obama. :mad:
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:46 PM
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10. Oh please
:eyes:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:39 PM
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11. Let's change the year to...say 1959..and the question would be
marriage between different races.. would her answer (though technicaly legal at that time) be "okay"?
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