Pro-Life Activist Says Doctor 'Reaped What He Sowed'

[RedEarth]

Source: Washington Post

Antiabortion activist Randall Terry today added fuel to the debate over the killing yesterday of a prominent Kansas late-term abortion provider, saying George R. Tiller "was a mass murderer and, horrifically, he reaped what he sowed."

Terry, the founder of Operation Rescue, said today that the pro-life movement bears no responsibility for the slaying of Tiller during Sunday church services in Wichita, Kan. In the wake of Tiller's death, Terry said abortion opponents "have to be confrontational" and "have to use highly-charged rhetoric" to advance their movement.

"The pro-life movement right now is at a crossroads," Terry said at a midday news conference at the National Press Club. "We have become steadily politically irrelevant, our leadership is graying, retiring and dying, and many of the new leaders do not have the fortitude and clarity of thought to not flinch in an hour of crisis like this. So the words that I'm going to say today are specifically geared towards shoring up the pro-life movement."

Terry spoke of Tiller in religious terms, saying the doctor will be remembered as "one of the villains of history."

"I grieve for Dr. Tiller because he left this life, perhaps without proper preparation to face God," Terry said. "The thought of him leaving this life with blood on his hands for having killed so many thousands of children and not having been prepared to meet his maker is a dreadful, terrifying thought."



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/01/AR2009060102058.html?hpid=topnews

[JerseygirlCT]

1. What hypocritical jerk! nt

[McCamy Taylor]

26. Yesterday a bunch of DUers demanded waterboarding, illegal detention and death

for members of Operation Rescue and other anti-abortion groups---even though most people at DU are on record as being opposed to the Bush administration's use of illegal detention, torture and murder when it was applied to the political enemies of the Republican Party.

The mods have said that I am not allowed to repeat the things which were posted yesterday. But I will just say that DU reached a new level of hypocrisy in the way that it demanded that the DOJ make use of illegal tactics---in order to persecute the political enemies of the left.

No one will take calls for civil liberties protections seriously if we decide that they only apply to the folks we like.

[Seldona]

30. Oh please.

There is no comparison between an emotional response at the time of realization of a terrorist attack, and the organized and planned hate from christian anti-abortion groups.

Nor did anyone die from people's emotional reactions. Nor do I believe the people making those statements would carry through any sort of plan. They were shocked, horrified, pissed, and scared. At least I was. Calling for harsh justice is NOT the same as domestic terror. It is a response to it, albeit one which I wish didn't exist in humans.

Emotions get the best of us all at one time or another, even if we don't act on them. Are you seriously telling me you have never had impulses like that? I call bullshit.

[martymar64]

31. I was one of those hotheads. Not proud of it.

I said a lot of stuff in the heat of the moment. After I slept on it, I woke up ashamed of what I had said. I'm glad you brought this point up. I'm not making plans to actually go out and hurt anybody, it's not in my nature. I'm not like THEM. I was just shocked, saddened and very very angry. I went so far as to alert on one of my own posts because it was too late to delete it myself. I apologize to everybody here for what I said.

[heliarc]

36. A lot of DUers have a sense of humor....

And say those things to point out just the hypocrisy you have a problem with.

There is a double standard we are fighting and demanding those things points out the double standard very acutely.

I'm sure there are a few DUers who really are angry enough to demand things like that, but consider how many are just acting out for effect.

[skooooo]

2. so much for the "pro-life" movement...

This will set it back even further.

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[bluestateguy]

3. Bill Terry should be in prison

He abuses freedom of speech and incites terrorism.

Just find something in the Patriot Act--I don't care what-- to have him warehoused at Guantanamo w/out a trial indefinitely.

[newinnm]

5. I may not like what he says

But I would fight and dies for his right to say it.


-nnnm

[Blue_Tires]

9. well Tiller certainly died for his right to say it...no doubt....

[atreides1]

10. So would I

Until he crossed the line from talking to action, then I would do to him what should be done to any rabid animal!

I won't be specific, but I'm sure you can figure it out.

[newinnm]

17. I agree

But it appears that some think that only pleasant speech is protected.

nnnm

[SoCalNative]

11. Then you are no better than he is

eom

[newinnm]

16. You cant pick and choose on Free Speech

Are you one of those people who say that free speech applies to "me and those who I agree with" because it certainly sounds like it.


-nnnm

[thereismore]

20. You don't have to lecture about free speech on this board. nt

[noiretextatique]

25. these people are inciting and conding violence

that's terrorism, not "free speech."

[Rebubula]

21. That is full...

...of all sorts of Complete and utter Freedom of Speech FAIL!

However, I would gladly serve time in jail for the opportunity to punch Randall Terry in the face. OK....I lie...there is little, other than danger to my loved ones, that would allow me to do something that would end me in prison. I like my freedom too much...I am a coward about that these days.

[kenfrequed]

22. What?

What kind of non-comment is this anyhow?

We are NOT having a discussion about free speech. Spare me the damned pointless platitudes already. He is in no danger of losing his right to speak and the massive funds of the Christian right are promising to keep funding nutballs like this.

[Rambis]

4. Jaysus fucking christ! (nm)

c

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

6. And there are some who say OR is not a terrorist organization

Terry and his ilk encourage people to go murder. And killing a viable human being is murder, unlike a medical procedure aimed at saving a woman's life.

[louis-t]

7. They are at a "crossroads"?

You mean, the croosroads between sane behaviour and sending out militia zombies to murder doctors? That crossroads? Asshole.

[uppityperson]

8. I guess the numerous women's lives who he saved in his ob/gyn practice

they don't count

[Cheap_Trick]

12. Hey Randy, here's a dime....go out and buy a last name.

And shut the fuck up while you're at it.

Your buddy did the worst thing for you imaginable.....he has shined a bright light on you cockroaches.

Look how you little bugs scattered already...scrubbed your "operation rescue" website to obfuscate the FACT that he's one of you. Same goes for Freeperland.

What's the matter, assholes? You're so proud of what he did, but you're not willing to claim him as one of your own? Pussies.

[NJmaverick]

13. He should be charged with giving material aide to terrorists

[Pat Riot]

14. not pro life, anti choice eom

[NC_Nurse]

15. Fuck you, you POS. Who died and made you God?

[underpants]

18. In this spot they let Randall Terry out into the light of day?

:nuke:

FAIL!

[Rebubula]

19. As strange as it sounds...

...I almost wish that these assholes WOULD go on the offensive so that we can publicly call them what they are - TERRORISTS!

They need to be added to Terror Watch lists and have their movements and comms monitored.

There are NO groups that I despise as much as pro-life (not going to get into semantics) assholes. They are the most sanctimonious blowhards on the planet. They are the same as the Taliban and Alqueda.

[CatholicEdHead]

23. Before I was banned, there was a thread on Catholic Answers over this

"The pro-life movement right now is at a crossroads," Terry said at a midday news conference at the National Press Club. "We have become steadily politically irrelevant, our leadership is graying, retiring and dying, and many of the new leaders do not have the fortitude and clarity of thought to not flinch in an hour of crisis like this. So the words that I'm going to say today are specifically geared towards shoring up the pro-life movement."

I was only allowed to stay because I was on topic, but I pretty much killed off the thread as I was an early poster. My point was to have both sides come together and work on minimizing abortions as much as possible, there is more overlap than you think. My post, which was over a year and a half ago echoed what Obama spoke about at Notre Dame. Of course that fell flat and I was reported as the point of the thread was the point of Terry's rant here, which is to rile up supports even more and get the froth and spittle going. :crazy: :puke:

That is where the "pro-life" movement is going, into irrelevance. Younger generations are against abortions but think this black and white denouncing nonsense has gone too far. You cannot hold any movement with only the 20% greater population core of followers. You only have a good 30-40yrs and then it falls apart as a new generation takes over.

[heliarc]

24. Terrorist. nt

[McCamy Taylor]

27. Everyone has free speech rights, even Operation Rescue. Calling one's political enemies "terrorists"

is something that Bush used to do.

Have we decided to emulate Bush/Cheney?

[The Traveler]

28. Good point

You are right ... at this point, it is unfair and incorrect to call this one a terrorist. But still, MCT, you have to admit, if nothing else, the bastard sure sounds like a terrorist sympathizer ...

How do we call these folk out without calling them out? The question is not facetious ... the point you make represents a very real horn of the bull ...

Trav

[heliarc]

35. If you didn't get the irony in what I said...

than it certainly would seem like what I'm doing is the same as what the Bush squad does. I meant to make exactly the point you were making while pointing out their hapless double standards... sorry that it was lost on you.

[TommyO]

37. These people have waged a war of terror on health care providers

I have no problem calling them what they are.

[AtheistCrusader]

29. Randall Terry is one of the scumbags that interfered with Terry Schaivo's passing.

The plot thins.

[Pavulon]

32. Hmm dangerous ice he is on.

as he is a "person of interest" in the debate and under his own flawed logic could "reap what he sows". He is justifying his own murder. (to be clear i am NOT ADVOCATING violence)

What a moron. The best way to deal with these people is to let them die from inattention. They are supporters of a bygone position, like people who support segregation. They are just as irrelevant to the rest of us.

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