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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:30 PM
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Guess our little W.Va. blog hurt poor Jim Robinson's feelings
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 04:34 PM by Adenoid_Hynkel
Thu May 21, 2009

Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks unknowingly kicked off a firestorm in 2003 when she told an audience she was embarrassed George W. Bush was a fellow Texan.
Her criticism of the president prompted outrage from conservatives and, in the following days, a movement formed to have the group pulled from the airwaves.

Organizing this effort was Free Republic, one of the Web's largest conservative sites, which distributed the contact information of music stations and encouraged members to demand the Dixie Chicks be dropped from playlists.

However, fast-forward six years to Barack Obama's election, and Free Republic has a different take on the White House.

The site, whose members previously declared the harmless stage banter of a country singer "treason," now hosts numerous threads advocating secession of states from the union.


more:
http://wvablue.com/diary/4506/patriotism-conservative-style

Freeper hysteria response thread, standing firm on Birther stupidity, started by RimJob:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2255739/posts
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:34 PM
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1. The Connecticut Cowboy was not a Texan anyway n/t
And Freak Republic is just that.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:35 PM
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3. true
and the ranch was just a soundstage that he abandoned upon leaving office
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:35 PM
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2. Can you say "Flaming Fucking Hypocrites?"
I knew you could.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:47 PM
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7. They truly had no counter-argument
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 04:52 PM by Adenoid_Hynkel
When I was sent the link, I expected to see a few of them try to respond with some kind of convoluted attempt at logic.

Instead, all they have is a load of "Damn right I'm a birther!" posts, whining about Dan Rather in 2009, and a few examples of what are supposed to be unflattering pictures of Natalie Maines.

They're proudly holed up in that alternate reality and they're not coming out.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:48 PM
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8. Maybe I'm warped, but Natalie's sexy. They all are. n/t
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:52 PM
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11. Yes they all are...however Natalie and Martie are both married
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:56 PM
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13. A lot of that going around, I hear. n/t
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 06:38 PM
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24. Sexy? Hell, yes! And almost preternaturally adorable.
:loveya:


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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 06:21 PM
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22. I noticed that, too.
I'm guessing that Natalie on her worst day is about a million times hotter than anything those creeps could get.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:48 PM
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9. If they can't I sure as hell will...
...about RimJob and his band of racist and extremist turds.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:39 PM
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4. Hypocrisy, Thy Name is Republican. n/t
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:42 PM
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5. Hilarious! So long as there is no violence - they are all moving that way.
Not just because of Tiller, either. Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity - they are all accusing Obama of outrageous things (especially Rush), and words do count.

That said, I find entertaining (if completely stupid) their creation/evolution threads and their Civil War threads ("Slavery had virtually nothing to do with it!").

But their threads about the president are rife with implied threats of violence - following the lead of their Lord and Master, Rush Limbaugh.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:50 PM
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10. Fact is, they're probably a tiny bit right on the slavery end...
For most of the rebel soldiers, they had no personal stake in slavery. They'd never owned slaves and probably barely had enough money in the family to feed themselves. Culturally, however, slavery had a big role in the civil war in that the attempted succession was prompted by powerful and wealthy slave-holders who didn't want to give up their economic advantage over everyone else.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:03 PM
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14. Slavery was the overwhelming cause of the war. No war without slavery.
Read the South Carolina Ordinance of Secession. Also this excerpt, which sums it up nicely:

". . . One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it.

Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh."

If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. . ."

That's from Lincoln's Second Inaugural, of course. March 1865.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:16 PM
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15. A page from history
For anyone who has not read the Declaration of Causes of Seceding States, here is but one example: Texas. The war was about SLAVERY.

Declaration of Causes of Seceding States

Texas


A Declaration of the Causes which Impel the State of Texas to Secede from the Federal Union.

The government of the United States, by certain joint resolutions, bearing date the 1st day of March, in the year A.D. 1845, proposed to the Republic of Texas, then *a free, sovereign and independent nation* , the annexation of the latter to the former, as one of the co-equal states thereof,

The people of Texas, by deputies in convention assembled, on the fourth day of July of the same year, assented to and accepted said proposals and formed a constitution for the proposed State, upon which on the 29th day of December in the same year, said State was formally admitted into the Confederated Union.

Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated Union to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings. She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slave-holding States of the confederacy. Those ties have been strengthened by association. But what has been the course of the government of the United States, and of the people and authorities of the non-slave-holding States, since our connection with them?

The controlling majority of the Federal Government, under various pretences and disguises, has so administered the same as to exclude the citizens of the Southern States, unless under odious and unconstitutional restrictions, from all the immense territory owned in common by all the States on the Pacific Ocean, for the avowed purpose of acquiring sufficient power in the common government to use it as a means of destroying the institutions of Texas and her sister slaveholding States.

By the disloyalty of the Northern States and their citizens and the imbecility of the Federal Government, infamous combinations of incendiaries and outlaws have been permitted in those States and the common territory of Kansas to trample upon the federal laws, to war upon the lives and property of Southern citizens in that territory, and finally, by violence and mob law, to usurp the possession of the same as exclusively the property of the Northern States.

The Federal Government, while but partially under the control of these our unnatural and sectional enemies, has for years almost entirely failed to protect the lives and property of the people of Texas against the Indian savages on our border, and more recently against the murderous forays of banditti from the neighboring territory of Mexico; and when our State government has expended large amounts for such purpose, the Federal Government has refuse reimbursement therefor, thus rendering our condition more insecure and harassing than it was during the existence of the Republic of Texas.

These and other wrongs we have patiently borne in the vain hope that a returning sense of justice and humanity would induce a different course of administration.

When we advert to the course of individual non-slave-holding States, and that a majority of their citizens, our grievances assume far greater magnitude.

The States of Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan and Iowa, by solemn legislative enactments, have deliberately, directly or indirectly violated the 3rd clause of the 2nd section of the 4th article of the federal constitution, and laws passed in pursuance thereof; thereby annulling a material provision of the compact, designed by its framers to perpetuate the amity between the members of the confederacy and to secure the rights of the slave-holding States in their domestic institutions-- a provision founded in justice and wisdom, and without the enforcement of which the compact fails to accomplish the object of its creation. Some of those States have imposed high fines and degrading penalties upon any of their citizens or officers who may carry out in good faith that provision of the compact, or the federal laws enacted in accordance therewith.

In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon an unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of equality of all men, irrespective of race or color-- a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of Divine Law. They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States.

For years past this abolition organization has been actively sowing the seeds of discord through the Union, and has rendered the federal congress the arena for spreading firebrands and hatred between the slave-holding and non-slave-holding States.

By consolidating their strength, they have placed the slave-holding States in a hopeless minority in the federal congress, and rendered representation of no avail in protecting Southern rights against their exactions and encroachments.

They have proclaimed, and at the ballot box sustained, the revolutionary doctrine that there is a 'higher law' than the constitution and laws of our Federal Union, and virtually that they will disregard their oaths and trample upon our rights.

They have for years past encouraged and sustained lawless organizations to steal our slaves and prevent their recapture, and have repeatedly murdered Southern citizens while lawfully seeking their rendition.

They have invaded Southern soil and murdered unoffending citizens, and through the press their leading men and a fanatical pulpit have bestowed praise upon the actors and assassins in these crimes, while the governors of several of their States have refused to deliver parties implicated and indicted for participation in such offenses, upon the legal demands of the States aggrieved.

They have, through the mails and hired emissaries, sent seditious pamphlets and papers among us to stir up servile insurrection and bring blood and carnage to our firesides.

They have sent hired emissaries among us to burn our towns and distribute arms and poison to our slaves for the same purpose.

They have impoverished the slave-holding States by unequal and partial legislation, thereby enriching themselves by draining our substance.

They have refused to vote appropriations for protecting Texas against ruthless savages, for the sole reason that she is a slave-holding State.

And, finally, by the combined sectional vote of the seventeen non-slave-holding States, they have elected as president and vice-president of the whole confederacy two men whose chief claims to such high positions are their approval of these long continued wrongs, and their pledges to continue them to the final consummation of these schemes for the ruin of the slave-holding States.

In view of these and many other facts, it is meet that our own views should be distinctly proclaimed.

We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

That in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* ; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states.

By the secession of six of the slave-holding States, and the certainty that others will speedily do likewise, Texas has no alternative but to remain in an isolated connection with the North, or unite her destinies with the South.

For these and other reasons, solemnly asserting that the federal constitution has been violated and virtually abrogated by the several States named, seeing that the federal government is now passing under the control of our enemies to be diverted from the exalted objects of its creation to those of oppression and wrong, and realizing that our own State can no longer look for protection, but to God and her own sons-- We the delegates of the people of Texas, in Convention assembled, have passed an ordinance dissolving all political connection with the government of the United States of America and the people thereof and confidently appeal to the intelligence and patriotism of the freemen of Texas to ratify the same at the ballot box, on the 23rd day of the present month.

Adopted in Convention on the 2nd day of Feby, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-one and of the independence of Texas the twenty-fifth.

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:20 PM
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16. Ugh. None of this conflicts with what I said.
Some poor dirt farmer or bayou kid didn't join the army to fight for slavery. Why would they even care? They joined to fight against what they were told was aggression from the north. I already admitted that CULTURALLY it was ALL about slavery, but for individuals there were a lot of reasons to fight that had nothing to with slavery.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:06 PM
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29. And some of them fought...
... because they would be shot if they didn't, as some 300 German immigrants in Texas found out when they declined to join the CSA and were massacred. Of course, your argument doesn't hold water for some 120,000 Southern Unionists who chose to fight to preserve the Union, nor the tens of thousands of Southern slaves who fought with the United States Colored Troops -- men who knew that by the order of the Confederacy they were not to be taken as prisoners of war, but executed on the spot.

We all make choices. Some chose treason.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:24 PM
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30. Oh, agreed.
I'm not even justifying anything. Just pointing out that there are a few valid perspectives in the discussion.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:44 PM
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6. It's so hard to read their gibberish.
Sad that there is such ignorance. Our educational system certainly failed them. Poor spelling, non-existent critical thinking skills, little to no knowledge of civics. Sad sad people. They are to be pitied as they will most likely never see their way out of their ignorance due to the fear they cling to. Sad.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:53 PM
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12. FR should be investigated for treason and for advocating terrorist acts.



The FBI and Secret Service should seize their servers and issue warrants
for all members who posted threats of harm to any public officials.


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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:31 PM
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17. Are they STILL crying about Obama's birth certificate?
Holy shit, these idiots would insist the sun rises in the west if they thought it would install Gramps and Sarah the Dumbass into the White House.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:58 PM
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21. And they are proud of it! - Calling themselves "birthers".


Holy shit is right. That kind of crazy needs it's own category.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 06:38 PM
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25. I just hope the majority of them don't breed.
No one needs their spawn running around.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:06 PM
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32. I don't think we need to worry about that...
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 06:49 AM
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33. yikes!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 10:34 AM
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35. And yet they had no problem
Voting for a man born in Panama, and before that, voting for a ticket featuring two residents of the same state. They're not exactly a model of consistency over there, unless you consider rank hypocrisy no matter what the subject to be a hallmark of consistency.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:37 PM
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18. Since they want to comment on Natalie Maine's looks...
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:47 PM
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19. Wow, no comparison
Natalie looks a million times better than RimJob. At least now I have a face to go along with the head moran.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:52 PM
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20. He looks like a redneck Robert Goulet impersonator
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 05:53 PM by Adenoid_Hynkel
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 06:33 PM
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23. Hey, that's not nice!
That's not being very nice to Robert Goulet!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:31 PM
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28. Heck, that's a flattering photo of Robinson.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:26 PM
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31. She's such a pretty lady.
Of course, they think Annthrax COULTER is a prize. So no accounting for (lack of) taste.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 06:57 PM
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26. Just out of curiosity, is there a difference between a certificate of live birth
and a birth certificate? I always thought they were different terms that referred to the same document.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:09 PM
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27. As far as I know, a certificate of live birth is issued at the time of birth
Whereas a birth certificate is a copy of that original document. They have the exact same information on them, but one is a copy of another. Only freepers would actually be stupid enough to make this an issue, but it shows just how desperate they really are.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 10:03 AM
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34. I thought 'Birther' was a term for anti-abortion/pro-life...
Edited on Sun Jun-07-09 10:04 AM by crikkett
:shrug:
pretty funny.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 04:43 AM
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36. .
with the spotlight on freeperville today, i thought this was worth bumping
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