Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Obama and the justice department - If there is a law existing, does DOJ have to enforce?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:13 PM
Original message
Obama and the justice department - If there is a law existing, does DOJ have to enforce?
I'm asking as a result of this DOMA ruling that I have very little information on. It seems like people are asking the Obama Justice Department to not argue for this law. If the law is on the books, how does the department argue against it? Does Congress have to take action to repeal this law first?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
1. YES. Its their job to defend and enforce the law
.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Nice knee-jerk guess. Unfortunately, unsubstantiated by US history. /nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. You need to read the role of the DOJ
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:17 PM
Response to Original message
2. several things
First, on rare occassion the DOJ refuses to defend a law stating it believes it to be unconstitutional. I admit, Obama would have been stretching to outright refuse to defend it but he could have. Reagan, Clinton and Bush 2 DOJ's all refused to defend at least one law during their Presidencies.

Second, even if you accept the necessity of defending the law the brief was appalling and basicly argued that the 14 amendment is irrelevent to gays.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:18 PM
Response to Original message
3. No, federal law authorizes restoration of the civil right of convicted felons to keep and bear arms
but DoJ does not have a process to implement that law.

That's just one example and there are many more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:18 PM
Response to Original message
4. No, they don't
"In fact, George W. Bush (ACLU et al., v. Norman Y. Mineta - "The U.S. Department of Justice has notified Congress that it will not defend a law prohibiting the display of marijuana policy reform ads in public transit systems."), Bill Clinton (Dickerson v. United States - "Because the Miranda decision is of constitutional dimension, Congress may not legislate a contrary rule unless this Court were to overrule Miranda.... Section 3501 cannot constitutionally authorize the admission of a statement that would be excluded under this Court's Miranda cases."), George HW Bush (Metro Broadcasting v. Federal Communications Commission), and Ronald Reagan (INS v./ Chadha - "Chadha then filed a petition for review of the deportation order in the Court of Appeals, and the INS joined him in arguing that § 244(c)(2) is unconstitutional.") all joined in lawsuits opposing federal laws that they didn't like, laws that they felt were unconstitutional. It is an outright lie to suggest that the DOJ had no choice"

http://www.americablog.com
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 07:22 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC