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AlexanderProgressive Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:47 PM
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The Washington Post fires its best columnist. Why? (Glen Greenwald has the story)
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 03:26 PM by AlexanderProgressive
Glen Greenwald reports that Dan Froomkin has been fired:

One of the rarest commodities in the establishment media is someone who was a vehement critic of George Bush who, applying their principles consistently, has become a regular critic of Barack Obama -- someone who criticizes Obama from what is perceived as "the Left" rather than for being a Terrorist-Loving Socialist Muslim. It just got a lot rarer, as The Washington Post -- at least according to Politico's Patrick Gavin-- just fired WashingtonPost.com columnist, long-time Bush critic and Obama watchdog (i.e., a real journalist) Dan Froomkin.

What makes this firing so bizarre and worthy of inquiry is that, as Calderone notes, Froomkin was easily one of the most linked-to and cited Post columnists. At a time when newspapers are relying more and more on online traffic, the Post just fired the person who, in 2007, wrote 2 out of the top 10 most-trafficked columns. In publishing that data, Media Bistro used this headline: "The Post's Most Popular Opinions (Read: Froomkin)." Isn't that an odd person to choose to get rid of?

Following the bottomless path of self-pity of the standard right-wing male -- as epitomized by Pete Hoekstra's comparison of House Republicans to Iranian protesters and yet another column by Pat Buchanan decrying the systematic victimization of the white male in America -- Charles Krauthammer last night said that Obama critics on Fox News are "a lot like Caracas where all the media, except one, are state run." But right-wing polemicists like Krauthammer are all over the media.

In addition to his Rupert Murdoch perch at Fox, Krauthammer remains as a regular columnist at the Post, alongside fellow right-wing Obama haters such as Bill Kristol, George Will, Jim Hoagland, and Robert Kagan -- as well as a whole bevy of typical, banal establishment spokespeople who are highly supportive of whoever is in power (David Ignatius, Fred Hiatt, Ruth Marcus, David Broder, Richard Cohen, Howie Kurtz, etc. etc.). And that's to say nothing of the regular Op-Ed appearances by typical Krauthammer-mimicking neoconservative voices such as John Bolton, Joe Lieberman, and Douglas Feith -- and the Post Editorial Page itself. "Caracus" indeed.

Read whole story
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/18/froomkin/index.html
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:50 PM
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1. Not good. :(
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:07 PM
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23. Saw this on Salon.com
Judging from the comments, WaPo's readership is going to PLUMMET faster than the economy.

Dan Froomkin is just about the only sane, balanced, THINKING writer they've got...excuse me...had.:banghead:

Which might explain why they've decided to get rid of him...:silly::dunce:

:kick:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:51 PM
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2. I don't trust the Politico
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 02:57 PM by blogslut
If Froomkin was let go, that would be terrible. Just the same, the Politico is no better than Fox News when it comes to truth and accuracy.

Here's Froomkin's posting from today:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/white-house-watch/quick-takes-86.html

No mention of his being terminated.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:44 PM
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15. I just got off the phone with Kris Coratti @ WaPo
She said that Froomkin's column is being phased out and at this time, there's no certainty as to when Mr. Froomkin will stop posting his web column. In other words, there is still ample chance to let the WaPo know that we want Mr. Froomkin to stay.

Oh and also, the Politico is full of shit

Here's Ms. Coratti's phone number:

1-703-469-2763

She is WaPo Media Communications director.

Incidentally, I first called the WaPo city desk (202-334-7300). Then I was transferred to the national desk. They transferred me to the web desk. The web desk transferred my to the Human Services Department and oh boy, did I have an interesting convo with the lady here. She's the one who gave me Kris Coratti's number - which I advise you all to call.

:)
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:57 PM
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22. Good work.
Just wanted you to know that someone noticed.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:27 PM
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27. Thanks!
:hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:26 PM
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26. Thanks for your work,
blogslut!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:28 PM
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28. :)
I appreciate that.
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AlexanderProgressive Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:57 PM
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3. I'm not visiting the Washington Post website if a good explanation is not given
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 02:57 PM by AlexanderProgressive
Calderone of Politico reports that Charles Krauthammer once called Froomkin's analysis "stupid."
Here's the link of Krauthammer's comments:

"And occasionally stupid. Dan Froomkin, writing for washingtonpost.com and echoing a common meme among my critics, asserted that "the ticking time bomb scenario only exists in two places: On TV and in the dark fantasies of power-crazed and morally deficient authoritarians."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/14/AR2009051403603.html
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:57 PM
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4. nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I can hardly believe it.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:57 PM
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5. I think the WaPo saw an opportunity to become the internet paper of record after the NYT Select
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 03:01 PM by Romulox
debacle.

There has been a concerted shift of the paper to the "center/right" perspective in this same time frame, and most of the big named syndicated columnists on WP's opinion page are either conservatives or "third way" apologists for the status quo.

The WaPo's outsized ambitions seem unrealistic now. Can anyone more than 20 miles outside of DC imagine getting the paper delivered to their homes? The very idea is laughable. Not only is the WaPo returning to be an establishment organ of primarily regional interest. I frankly can't be bothered to visit their website any longer.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:59 PM
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6. Why do I think it's more than that? Because WaPost is known as SpookCentral and a HUGE story
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 03:01 PM by blm
looks like it may need some suppressing from the same old gang who suppressed stories like this for DECADES.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=273x157739


Swiss police threatened to arrest an aide to Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., for espionage last month if he entered the country in pursuit of a CIA connection to Pakistan's secret nuclear bomb smuggling.

Douglas Franz, a former newsman who recently became a top investigator with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which Kerry chairs, is an expert on Pakistani nuclear scientist A.Q. Khan, suspected of aiding Iran, North Korea and Libya in their secret nuclear bomb programs.

...

Last month Franz told Swiss authorities he wanted to question Urs Tinner, a Swiss citizen suspected of supplying Khan's network with "the technical knowledge and equipment that was used to make gas centrifuges for uranium enrichment," The Associated Press reported May 25.


In his book, Franz, a distinguished former New York Times reporter and managing editor of the Los Angeles Times, reported that Tinner had been recruited as a CIA informant, perhaps as early as 2000.
>>>>>>

Franz also wrote a book about BCCI - what he COULD write, anyway, as we all know the many outstanding MATTERS, including AQ Khan, were buried in the 90s and never allowed further scrutiny. Apparently, Kerry is using his power to correct some of that - no wonder they didn't want him with the power of the WH.

Anyway, WaPost is assuring that the left has no significant voice from their end when this story breaks wider....IF it breaks wider.
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AlexanderProgressive Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:02 PM
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7. It looks like a dispute with Charles Krauthammer over torture led to his firing, at least in part
Greenwald:

Notably, Froomkin just recently had a somewhat acrimonious exchange with the oh-so-oppressed Krauthammer over torture, after Froomkin criticized Krauthammer's explicit endorsement of torture and Krauthammer responded by calling Froomkin's criticisms "stupid." And now Froomkin is fired by the Post while the persecuted Krauthammer -- comparing himself to endangered journalists in Venezuela -- remains at the Post, along with countless others there who think and write just like he does: i.e., standard neoconservative pablum. Froomkin was previously criticized for being "highly opinionated and liberal" by Post ombusdman Deborah Howell (even as she refused to criticize blatant right-wing journalists).

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:06 PM
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8. To some degree...but firing Froomkin now knowing this huge story is out there is typical
behavior for them and the other news giants.


There was a story up yesterday in LBN about US officials linked to AQ Khan. No doubt some of that info came from Kerry's investigator re-opening and furthering this investigation.

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cagesoulman Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:12 PM
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17. AQ Khan story? Link?
This would make them fire the guy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:48 PM
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18. You have to know the WaPost - it's rep at other papers was SpookCentral - CIA mouthpiece
but, unfortunately, mostly accessible for the covert operations run by GHWBush and his thugs.

Here's one of the threads on AQ Khan story.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5876524
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cagesoulman Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:12 PM
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24. Thanks
:toast:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:14 PM
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10. They couldn't have kept Froomkin and let go Krauthammer?

:crazy:
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:21 PM
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25. Being against torture is obviously a fringe liberal view
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 08:28 PM by noise
The pro-torture advocates are pathetic. Only an idiot would equate the Bush/Cheney torture program with patriotism.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:11 PM
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9. The Post has become nothing more than another right wing rag
It's glory days are long gone

Fuck them. Nobody reads newspapers anymore.

Froomkin, who I really like and respect, will land somewhere that will appreciate his talents and insights.

The Post is bird cage liner material. That's all it's good for now.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:16 PM
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11. It's the rush to lowest possible common denominator
How can you dumb down Americans when someone keeps treating them like they have smarts? Please people! Get real!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:18 PM
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12. I found it amazing that Froomkin lasted through the Bush years...
...but gets fired during Obama's administration.

I'd like to hear exactly WHAT he got fired for. It certainly wasn't because no one read him.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 02:58 PM
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38. My thoughts exactly
very unsettling
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:21 PM
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13. One of my must-read guys. I hope he lands in a more honorable place than the WAPO
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 03:24 PM by glitch
Like Harpers.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:26 PM
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14. Should have been titled "Washington Post embraces cable TV model...fires last liberal"
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 03:27 PM by Zodiak
Because face it.....our political discourse is tightly-controlled by the gatekeepers in the establishment media to be between the right wing and the center-right. Liberal thought is simply not to be included. This, of course, ensures a slow but inexorable trudge to a corporate, proto-fascist state in the absence of any widely-available alternative media.

My guess is that the Washington Post just made themselves irrelevant in the same way the WSJ has. The newspapers are dying, and I am beginning to think rightfully so.

Why? Well, people who read the news tend to read the news because they do not like the cable-tv model of political discourse. There are a lot of left-leaning people included in that group.

Papers should be trying to increase their audience, not narrowing their ideological dynamic range.

Dumb-asses.

Oh yeah....that ombudsman mentioned..Howard...isn't she the one who got into a flap with bloggers a couple of years ago by removing posts on their webpage critical of their neo-con slant?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:09 PM
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16. I love Froomkin. The WP has been stocking up on conservative columnists the past few years. nt
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:51 PM
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19. Update from Greenwald:
UPDATE: I just confirmed with Froomkin that Gavin's report is true, and hope to have some comment from him once he decides what he wants to say.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:55 PM
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21. Froomkin's statement, also from Greenwald:
UPDATE III: Here is Froomkin's statement:

I’m terribly disappointed. I was told that it had been determined that my White House Watch blog wasn’t "working" anymore. But from what I could tell, it was still working very well. I also thought White House Watch was a great fit with The Washington Post brand, and what its readers reasonably expect from the Post online.

As I’ve written elsewhere, I think that the future success of our business depends on journalists enthusiastically pursuing accountability and calling it like they see it. That’s what I tried to do every day. Now I guess I'll have to try to do it someplace else.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 12:06 PM
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36. I hope he can move from disappointment to flattered as quickly as possible.
Being fired by WAPO should be seen as a compliment to both his integrity and his skill as a journalist.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:52 PM
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20. The Post is trying to move to the right of the Washington Times....
n/t
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:33 PM
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29. K&R -- And call the # in post 15.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:38 AM
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30. Fromkin is great. The Post distinguishes itself as simply silly once again
It's the paper for my neck of the woods. After they published the details for the Clinton-Lewinsky
encounters, every detail, I refused to pay for it ever again. I get the decent parts online. Fromkin
was terrific. He was also fun to read.

What a predictable move from a paper that has blood on its hands for Iraq. Shame on you Wash Post but
you have none.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:41 AM
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31. just trying to find a lame excuse to get rid of liberals
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:41 AM
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32. (facepalm) How fucked up can the media possibly get?
Don't answer that.
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A1Sauce Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:42 AM
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33. Holy Cow
Not good, not good at all
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 08:18 AM
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34. If there were any real Dems left in Washington
we'd have seen media reform long ago.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 09:04 AM
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35. I love Dan Froomkin
And this has me fuming. I hope he finds another good site to write for. We need him covering the White House!

:cry:



Sonia
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 02:39 PM
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37. This is a good indicator that the Bush fascists, who have gotten others
Edited on Fri Jun-19-09 02:48 PM by happydreams
fired from the WP are still in the drivers seat. They are destroying this civilization and must be brought to justice.

In the 1980's Poppy tried to muscle Ben Bradlee, chief editor famous for his role in Watergate, to fire Mary McGrory who tried to tell the truth about Bushista power. This is in Robert Parry's book
"Fooling America"



...... .....
There are no major news media in the US that are not controlled by the CIA.

The above quote is from ex CIA Director William Colby who died in a mysterious boating accident after working to expose The Franklin Coverup.
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