Okay, I'll say it--please don't make fun of the Sanford emails.

[TheWraith]

I'm sure we've all said or written things to people we care about that would sound awkward when read by a stranger. That's certainly the least of Sanford's transgressions, and there's more than enough things to make fun of about the situation without resorting to mocking whatever they did or didn't feel.

[Bicoastal]

1. No.

Sorry.

[K8-EEE]

40. I LOL'd at the "two magnificent parts" of Maria!!

Crappy Prince Charles-like sex emails.....hahahahahaha!!!!

What an idiot!

[trueblue2007]

45. It is my GOD GIVEN RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN to laff about his emails.

i ROTFL when he said the affair was "THAT SPARKING THING" during his press conference today.


And forget it!!!! I will continue to make fun of those emails and laff till I pee my pants over Sanford's emails. It is my GOD GIVEN RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN!!!!

[ldf]

53. well, it could have been "mario"

and he was holding his "balls", in the moonlight...

:spank:

that would have been a lot more interesting....

:eyes:

[MzNov]

87. That's exactly what I posted earlier.

Just because Sanford says it's a woman, why does everyone assume it is?? He's a lying cheater.

OMG, did you hear Stephanie, Jim and Chris this morning. They repeated the same theory! They must read DU! :rofl: Chris even said "mario"

I thought the email pronoun use was very vague also.

The plot thickens!

[Fuzz]

2. They are embarrassing, holy shit. Sucks as fuck to be him.

[lame54]

3. Kick 'em when their down...

grind them out of existence

[malaise]

10. Ditto

Fair game.

[Botany]

11. He needs to be slapped. Sanford on Clinton

“I think it would be much better for the country and for him personally (to resign). I come from the business side. If you had a chairman or
president in the business world facing these allegations, he’d be gone.”

“The issue of lying is probably the biggest harm, if you will, to the system of Democratic government, representatives government, because
it undermines trust. And if you undermine trust in our system, you undermine everything.”

[tekisui]

14. No mercy for repukes.

[K8-EEE]

41. He's so worried about the "sanctity of marriage?" Fuck him.

Hypocrite.

[Hepburn]

46. Ditto...n/t

[Arkana]

4. Negative, bossy meat creature.

They foster much merriment in other meatbags and as such should be topics of derision.

[comrade snarky]

50. Hypocrisy makes me want to practice my stabbin!

Hyyayyyyaaaaa yyyyyaaaaa!

[Arkana]

54. Whatsa matter?

YOU SCARED?!!!! HYAAAAA!!!!

[mikeytherat]

80. "N..n...n...no..." "Noticably? Well, stand back, I gotta practice my stabbin!"

"Keep it down in there! I'm tuning my banjo!"

mikey_the_rat

[comrade snarky]

92. Gotta tell you a little story bout a place called Waterloooooo

Bonjour Ya'll!

[goddess40]

5. If they were to his wife I'd agree with you

but because they're from one slut to another they are free game

[Tansy_Gold]

6. I'm with you on this.

I know perfectly well that I've written. . .. stuff. . .. I wouldn't want read on tv.

And that includes stuff I've published.


I think Gov. Sanford's actions are fair game for criticism, but maybe his emotions aren't.



Tansy Gold

[TorchTheWitch]

75. he gave not one flying shit for anyone else's emotions

so he gets no pass. NONE.

And frankly, I have grave doubts that his syrupy romance novel excerpt filled love letters are the least bit truthful. This is exactly the kind of sappy drivle men slather on women whose pants they want to get in when it's convenient for them... particularly married men who have no intension of leaving their wives or damaging their careers/ambitions. Such selfish turds when caught immediately discover that their "beloved"-on-the-side isn't the love of their life all (gee, exactly what Sanford did).

[peacetalksforall]

7. I think we should drop the letters part of this event for the sake of his children.

[K8-EEE]

42. HE should have thought about his kids on father's day instead of her tan lines!

Nothing said on this forum is going to hurt those kids like he hurt them. WTF. Even worse to write it down!

[uppityperson]

8. sexy topic de jour. I agree with you.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

9. I agree completely...

Some things are off limits, IMHO.


K&R

[sylvi]

55. Apparently, nothing is off limits these days

Apparently, nothing is off limits these days when it comes to either shadenfreude or Nielsen ratings. It's a shame how coarsened our society has become. Of course, it's also a shame we can't have leaders come forth who aren't rank hypocrites.

[TahitiNut]

Yeah.. after all, we're all state Governors overcome with the discovery that we're mammals.

:eyes:

[hlthe2b]

12. Embarrassing & cringe-inducing...

I couldn't even read past the first couple of lines... Hearing bits of KO reading, was excruciating.... I'd have been far more happy if they had exposed him without releasing the emails...

[comrade snarky]

13. Had he not been a self righteous blowhard

So ready to tell everyone else how moral he is I might agree with you....

But he was, so let lose the hounds of mocking!

[Psychic Consortium]

15. Karma time. He mocked and made ugly the love of some others.

Now his love is made ugly.
It is sad to see what goes around comes around.

[Cha]

58. I really have not seen

a bigger hypocrite this year or last than Gov mark sanford of South Carolina.. That old adage comes to mind.."The bigger they are the harder they fall."

[Psychic Consortium]

70. Yes that was the same adage that PC keeps thinking...... nt

[H2O Man]

16. I agree 100%.

Maybe more, because there is so much at stake here. First, the republican party is the party of family values. We need to show respect for their respect for family values. Honoring the governor's dishonorable behavior is a must.

Second, what if the republicans get mad? I think the threads on DU that make jokes about this tragic situation could very well back-fire. The price we will all pay is too much to risk.

Third, laughter in and of itself is dangerous. Our faces could freeze in place, and we would run around looking like the Joker on Batman (movies and cartoons). It would be unrealistic to think that the silent majority would trust a bunch of grass roots Jokers who laugh.

I hope Skinner will suspend the drivers licenses of any DUer who either tells jokes or laughs. A good stiff warning for those who smile may be a good thing, too.

[KG]

21. +infinity

[Spazito]

28. LOL! I was half-way through typing a screed against your post when...

I, unlike Governor Sanford, had a sober second thought and re-read your post! Well done!

:rofl:

[myrna minx]

51. In addition, we'd better keep our powder dry for a possible bigger hypocrisy.

:hi: We wouldn't want to blow it on this one, in case the Republicans get mad at us.

[TheWraith]

57. I, for one, would rather not behave like the Republicans.

We all recognized the invasion of privacy for what it was when it was the Republicans doing it to Clinton. It doesn't become right just because the guy is on the other side.

[Stephanie]

62. May we PLEASE have a ZONE OF PRIVACY around this man???

He ADMITTED to being entranced by the erotic beauty of her two magnificent parts, now can we give him the PRIVACY and RESPECT he DESERVES?

(check this waterman - wd like your 2 cents: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5919288&mesg_id=5919288)

[Forkboy]

63. "This kid's got a left, this kid's got a right, if he hit you once, you're asleep for the night. "

:rofl:

[zazen]

17. I agree-and I was disappointed that MSNBC's focus tonight was on email and not Iran

We can be better than them and not be pushovers. It's like watching a secret tape of their having sex that a private detective might have taken. Does the public have the right to watch that? I don't think it's my business.

His poor kids. They'll hear jokes about his Dad's comments for the rest of their lives.

[SoCalDem]

18. Emails are like postcards..available to be read by ANYONE

when are people going to learn that ?

[BuyingThyme]

19. I read a little and was impressed.

[madaboutharry]

20. I do not have sympathy for this man.

He was carrying on a romantic and apparently steamy love affair while holding himself out to the public as a morally superior Christian man out to protect and promote "family values". He is a fraud and a hypocrite. I am not going to give him any slack because he was actually having an affair with a woman he is in love with rather than the hookers most of his republican colleagues hang around.

He wanted it both ways.

I think he and everything he has written and has said is open to ridicule.

[eleny]

22. Sorry, but the sanctimonious brat deserves the ridicule he's receiving

Sure, we've all said and done etc etc. But we don't necessarily share his history of preaching and holier-than-thou blather.

High horses have slippery saddles - and he greased his all by himself.

[tammywammy]

23. I agree n/t

[Turbineguy]

24. Under the Noblesse Oblige doctrine

the emails are fair game. Sorry for his wife and kids, but he did it.

[Batgirl]

25. I've long since run out of pity for lying, hypocritical GOP assholes.

Sorry.

[AwakeAtLast]

26. When Repukes stop being racist, sexist, fearmongering excuses for human beings

I'll consider it.

[jhain]

27. We have written things we regret

but we are not all elected GOVERNORS.

[Psychic Consortium]

36. Or wanting to run for President of the US. Very bad judgment. nt

[girl gone mad]

29. He was old enough to know better.

This is an old man, writing dumb love notes like a school boy with his first crush. Goofy midlife crisis stuff. Call me a cynic, call me a bitch, but I think he deserves to be mocked for it.

[pipi_k]

30. For anyone concerned about his kids...

Yep. It sucks. They'll probably hear about this the rest of their lives.

But it was their father's responsibility to conduct his life in such a way that his children wouldn't have to bear the brunt of his mistakes or bad behavior.

He obviously didn't give a rat's ass about them or their emotions. Only his own sleazy pleasure. Why do these assholes go on thinking they can keep these things secret?

Personally, I don't care what politicians do with their libidos with other consenting adults, but I do hate lying hypocrites.

[salinen]

31. Oh your hips

and the other two things.

Takes me all the way back to jr. high.

[mikelgb]

32. look at you and your bleeding heart

[walkaway]

33. I think after he voted to impeach Clinton he deserves anything we...

say about him.

[kath]

68. Ding, ding, ding, ding!!!

[AlinPA]

34. He is a hypocrite. He should be mocked, laughed at and made a public display.

Holier-than-thou republicans like him are trying to control the lives of women and force their religion on everyone.

[Bonhomme Richard]

35. "You do nothing by halves either to enemies or friends."

Lord Minto to Vice-Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson

[appal_jack]

65. k&r for your reply

k&r for your reply, and for all the wonderful others who point out that rank hypocrisy deserves laughter and mocking to the fullest!

-app

[Spazito]

37. Gosh, if I were a lying, hypocritical, homophobic repub Governor...

I, too, would not want any e-mails to see the light of day that prove what a bloody hypocrite I was. Seeing as I am not any of those things, I disagree with you. If I thought the lying, hypocritical, homophobic, creep would actually learn from this, I might have a modicum of sympathy for your perspective but we KNOW he will continue to be the scumbag he is at present and hope all will be forgotten and forgiven cause he's asked for God's forgiveness.

[bvar22]

38. K&R

I heard some of it on Keith's show.
I have been a Fool for Love too, though this sounds more like high school infatuation, but not bad for high school stuff. I hate that his wife and children will be exposed to the Media snickering.

My wife, Starkraven, agreed.
She said that if someone she was infatuated with sent her a note like that, she would love it.
But then, Starkraven & myself are hopeless romantics.
Thank God we found each other.

[Stephanie]

39. He doesn't mind butting into other people's private lives

http://www.americablog.com/2009/06/two-weeks-ago-mark-sanford-emphatically.html

Mark Sanford is, of course, a right-wing defender of "traditional" marriage. Just two weeks ago, he made it clear that the GOP should not change its views on same-sex marriage. He was on MSNBC's Morning Joe to talk about unifying the GOP.

Joe Scarborough, led with the marriage issue, asking, "Do you think the Republican party should become more libertarian on the issue of gay marriage?" In other words, should the GOP stay out of the issue. Sanford responded, "No, I don't."

[Hello_Kitty]

43. 'world wind tour' and 'lightening' (for lightning)?

Sorry, but I'm making fun of his Freepstylin' ass. He's a moran.

[Z_I_Peevey]

74. Freepstylin'!

I hope your word catches on. Nice.

[4lbs]

44. Hopefully someone can get a hold of the actual digital versions of the emails and look at the header

This will let them see where they originated.

They could determine if the Governor sent them from home, his office, or somewhere else.

[Kahuna]

47. Whatever.

:eyes:

[Irishonly]

48. Too late

I heard and I laughed.

[roody]

49. I'm not even going to read them, but I know better than to do personal

stuff on my work email.

[Autumn]

52. Only republican love is sanctified

(in whatever form they choose) it is only other peoples love that is a transgression . But I say make fun of them anyway. They deserve it.

[TankLV]

56. NO. Hypocrits ESPECIALLY deserve it - especially when they rail agains ME personally

being that they're agaist MY marriage prospects and all, ya know...

NO FUCKING WAY!!! is more like it...

[Rowdyboy]

59. When he admits he has no business fucking with my relationship, I'll give him the same respect

Until then, fuck him

[d_b]

60. i'm sorry

but if you don't laugh at this then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwKnHvj4_qA

love that music.

[Mz Pip]

If he weren't such a sanctimonious hypocrite

I might agree.

But he is, so I don't.

[moondust]

66. +1

[mitchtv]

61. My mother always warned me about writing letters that I

can't take back. I followed that advice. Sanford deserves all he gets

[Moondog]

89. + 1

[G_j]

64. I honor your sentiment

and compassion for anyone is a good thing.

However, this is all due to choices the man has made, and because of his ultimate hypocrisy that effects other's lives, let the chips fall.
Karma's a bitch.

[Withywindle]

67. I'll laugh and feel good about it!

Yes, I've written plenty of things to lovers and received plenty of things from them I wouldn't want to hear read on the news.

However, I am not a RW politician who's spent much of his career mocking the love of others; most recently made the headlines by trying to make sure the poor people in his state stayed hungry by fighting against the "marxist" money the government WANTED to give them; and wrote these frothy Harlequin paragraphs to a woman who isn't his wife. (Younger, I take it? Yeah, I thought so. What a cliche. It's not just cheesy romance, it's trite and sexist cheesy romance) Those things make the emails mockworthy, not the purple prose, which just makes them human.

[Hekate]

69. I'll give Sanford points for being waaaay more poetic than Prince Charles to Camilla...

"I want to be your tampon, Camilla." Ewww.

We still get to mock the sanctimonious Republican hypocrite.

Hekate

[mikeytherat]

71. Sure I wrote things like that...when I was 17.

With a wife and four kids, what he SHOULD have felt was the need to keep his dick in his pants and not destroy two families.

mikey_the_rat

[mwb970]

72. I agree. We don't need to hear his personal statements.

I had to tune away from KO when he was chortling over Sanford's love missives. It was embarrassing and inappropriate to read them on the air. What the guy did is bad enough without this intrusion. We are supposed to be better than that.

[Vinca]

73. But most of us don't write them as "official" email.

From: Gov. Sanford
To: Maria

????? WTF? Then you talk about holding boobies?

[Jane Eyre]

77. State reporter confirmed that they were private emails

From the way that they were presented in the article, I assumed that they were sent from his official government email address. The reporter who did the article was on Rachel Maddow's show last night and she said that the emails were sent from his personal private email address.

The emails were sent to the paper by email from an anonymous tipster last December. The paper requested verification from both the sending email address (tipster) and Maria's email address. They did not receive confirmation from either source so they did not publish the emails.

So the question is, who sent these emails and how did they obtain them? Unless Sanford's email was hacked, the emails were obtained by someone else who had access to his or Maria's email accounts or they were forwarded to someone else and found their way to the news media. The emails represent private correspondence between two individuals. My guess is that a staffer or family member with a reason to be angry at the governor accessed his email, but who knows.

[Dangerously Amused]

90. Or his wife.

[spanone]

76. no way, he's a public figure who fucked over the public's trust

[cherish44]

78. I just pray there's no sex tape

nt

[CTyankee]

81. Well, his description of her hips and tan lines gave us a pretty good picture

of his sexual attraction to her, I'd say. If anything, it's better cuz we can design our "own" fantasy of what he and she did together...which is probably better than the reality, IMO...

[QC]

79. No. He's one of those homophobe "sanctity of marriage" bastards

who treated his own marriage--and family--like used Kleenex.

He deserves everything he's getting and more.

[Vickers]

82. Don't make fun of the guy who voted to impeach Clinton for *his* extramarital

affair, and then went and did the same goddam thing?

Fuck that shit, cowboy.

[a la izquierda]

83. I was hysterical at KO's narration last night.

I'm sorry, it was funny.

[Paladin]

84. Why The Hell Should We?

The right-wing hate media sure wouldn't be ignoring those emails if a Democrat was involved, and we shouldn't, either.

I am sick to death of liberals pulling their punches over things like this.....

[BlooInBloo]

85. Sorry - I'm too busy holding 2 magnificent parts of myself to listen to you at the moment.

[sledgehammer]

86. I laughed at the Clinton/cigar stuff too

Hated the witch-hunt*, but I definitely appreciate the lighter side of anything.

Two magnificent parts! LOL!!!!!

*karma's a bitch, isn't it repugs???

[noiretextatique]

88. if he sent those emails using state computers

they don't "belong" to him, and he has no claim to privacy.

[Bucky]

91. Like hell! This is damn funny!

Not as funny as Limbaugh trying to blame it on Obama.

[scheming daemons]

93. It's admiral how the left has compassion for those on the right that fuck up....

...but it is political suicide.


They hammered the John Edwards story for weeks, and he wasn't even a sitting elected official at the time.

[LynneSin]

94. But it was ok for Sanford to pass judgement on 2 people who want to make a lifetime commitment...

but happen to be of the same sex.