Easter 2007: "If we could pay less than the minimum wage, then we wouldn't have to

[no_hypocrisy]

go to China for labor."

Quoth one business executive (AT & T, I think) to another behind the scenes at a Catholic service for Easter Vespers last night.

First runner-up of obtuse, christian talk last night: "Who does Germany think it is, charging $8.00 for a cup of coffee! We'll fix'em!"

Between the outrage of the statements out of context and the whole idea of christian charity at Easter being ignored, I need some Advil for all the head-shaking I've been doing since last night.

[Cassandra]

1. They so love poor people that...

they want to create more close to home.

[CrispyQ]

2. "If we could just have slave labor then we could pocket ALL the profit for ourselves!"

:puke:

[iamjoy]

3. Outsourcing Is The Unions' Fault

If they hadn't fought so hard for minimum wage laws, workers' compensation, health & safety regulations and child labor laws, the American firms wouldn't have to ship jobs overseas - they could afford to keep them here.

That's right, blame the Unions.

I presume the people who really believe this somehow assume that in their little Utopia they would get to live like a robber baron instead of an anonymous worker.

[DBoon]

4. I love telling this to outsourced IT workers

People used to blame unions in the 1980s for manufacturing jobs moving abroad. It was all the fault of these lazy, overpaid union workers who refused to learn new skills and adapt to change.

So in the 1990s we have a highly skilled, very anti-union individualistic technical workforce, that thrived on change, was highly motivated to work hard and long hours and prided itself on constant education. What happened? Their jobs were sent to India.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

6. I wish I could recommend individual posts. -nt

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

7. By the way: put this on your journal or I'll copy it and put it on mine. -nt

[DBoon]

9. go ahead and copy it

I really heven't much of a journal

[The2ndWheel]

8. Unions have helped ship the jobs overseas

The problem the unions have is that they're playing on the corporate field. As long as you're playing by their rules, which they write, would you expect anything different?

Now, if you got rid of the corporations(and I have yet to hear a better idea than exactly that in my life), there would be no more mass production. Without mass production, there is no economy for the unions to protect the jobs which make it run. See, in my mind, doing away with mass production would be the 2nd best idea I've heard.

As long as capital is stationary, labor has the upper hand. As soon as capital is as free as the wind to cross borders, labor is screwed. Now, you could regulate that, but at what point does the entire economy become state owned, which really would be corporate owned, and then you have no way of fighting back? That's when you get into the military-industrial-complex area, and then the state and the corporation both require growth, then you have expansion, then you have imperialism, then you have large scale organized war, then you have jobs going here and there, and billions of people fighting against themselves for the right to life which the corporate state owns.

Unions have been the response to consolidated wealth and power, yet they're not the answer. In the reality we live in, unions are a must. Somewhere in there is the actual problem though.

[krispos42]

5. If there was a federal MAXIMUM wage, you'd have plenty to pay the minimum wage!

Let's say, ummm, a $500,000/year maximum wage, with everything over that taxed at 100%.

I bet a lot of corporate raises, salaries, and bonuses would disappear, leaving plenty of cash to make the line worker get, say, a 401(k) or something more than a COLA raise.

[MikeNearMcChord]

10. I wonder what this exec's excuse will be on judgement day?

If he even believes at all, some go to church just so they can be seen at the "right" place socially.

[BlooInBloo]

11. No link to verify the authenticity of this?

(No matter how *inclined* we might be to believe it, proof is STILL required.)

[no_hypocrisy]

12. No link b/c it happened in church last night. This is a report of what was

said.