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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:24 AM Original message |
House Lets States Do Single-Payer |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. If they are allowed, are they able to ban private insurance from covering the same care? |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. They won't have to Ban private insurers |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Unless a two-tier system developed |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Market forces will also dictate to the Doctors |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Cept for in practice in the real world, this doesn't always play out so well |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
59. The private doctors to the rich could be sitting on their hands a long time earning nothing-- |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Not so different than our medicaid/Medicare system? There are, I think, |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Well, you are lucky to even have public coverage for dental :) |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. It only covers kids, but yeah, very, very lucky! |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. THANK YOU JARED POLIS!!! |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. He's doing a great job |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. hopefully 2010 will bear good news |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
5. Excellent. |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. By all means do |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
7. Why did so many Republicans vote for this amendment? |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. A lot of them have this states-rights schtick going. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I hope you're right about that. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Except that the reason the Feds stepped in many years ago |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
80. In my experience, state senators/representatives are a lot less corrupt than national ones. |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. Exactly. My state of Oklahoma will go for single payer when pigs fly. nt |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 06:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Ditto Florida. nt |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. That's what I'm wondering |
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proReality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
48. They know that a lot of states are in the red |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
72. If I Had to Take a Wild Guess |
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Still Sensible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
8. Well it was a bipartisan vote, but it looks much |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
24. My guess is that they voted for it because they consider it likely... |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. "more like a republican measure that some democrats went along with rather than the other way around |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
11. We have passed single payer a couple of times in our legislature in California |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. There is a huge california campaign about to start! |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. it may have to wait until after 2010 |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. I would love Jerry again. I hope he's thinking of running. n/t |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. He is! |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. That's wonderful! |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. no |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
47. Maybe you could do a referendum? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. In order to do that I would have to have Darryl Issa's sugar daddies from |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Not necessarily. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 12:22 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Oh yeah. Just to get a referendum started, like permission from the |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 01:15 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Permission? You don't need permission. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #68 |
79. LOL! you make me laugh. If ponying up $200 to the state Treasurer isn't |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. They can't refuse you. So it's not permission. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. This is the problem, the volunteer part. Several Californians have tried to |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
12. DK working for the people. This needs buzzed up everywhere. K & R. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
13. fantastic news! |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
15. See also these Four Voices in the Senate also getting no media on this -- |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
16. My asshat of a |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
17. This is how Canada got to Single Payer. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
19. that man works tirelessly for us |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
23. The implication here is that the state plan would be the only plan |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
25. Congress, unable to decide to do something right... |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
26. Thank you Dennis Kucinich and thank you |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
31. Thank you, Dennis. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
35. Thank you for the details. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
39. So, what this does is give the state a right to create their own single-payer option? |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Darn, should have called David Wu this morning to get him to do a Y instead of a Pass! |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
40. David, Thank you for this |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-19-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
85. Another Thank You to David for all his efforts from this DU'er. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
42. This would be fabulous. Of course, I've learned not to expect too much from govt. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
43. that's great except in a mixed system, the moneymen can play the spread. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. Chickens! chickenchickenchicken chickenchicken |
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WestSeattle2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #44 |
73. My thoughts exactly. California can't pay their bills as it is. |
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yy4me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-19-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
83. Just like Massachusetts, it will quickly go broke, cut benefits and |
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PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
45. this is a GREAT THING! Wonder when Oregon will do it. Probably soon? |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Wu passed on it two times "Pass Pass" Think I'll call and complain or if CA passes it I'll just move |
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JimWis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
46. This is good news. Thanks for sharing it. I was wondering what |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
49. This thread makes me want to whistle Buckeye Battle Cry |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
51. First good news! Does "PASS" mean they didn't vote? |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
55. AND any state that does will be a state that brings in jobs first to its state. |
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irislake (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
56. Hurrah! |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
57. Any states out there want to add an experienced senior programmer to their tax base? |
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InkAddict (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. I live w/a great analyst that would pass you good specs |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-17-09 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
58. Curse you Hirono! |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
61. Text of Kucinich email |
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jcarterhero (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
62. This is a good idea |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. You're really racking up those posts, Jimmy |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
66. What if my state doesn't adopt single-payer??? (wailing)--Can I buy another state's plan? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
67. K&R, for another victory for the people, compliments of Representative Kucinich. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
70. illinois-single payer? no thanks |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
71. I predict CA with their simple referendum process will be the first |
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WestSeattle2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. How will they pay for it? I'd like to hear from CA DU'ers. |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
75. How can states afford this when the Federal Government can not? |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. As a business... |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Do you have any grasp on what relocation costs might be? |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-18-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
76. K & R |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-19-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
84. Organizing for MEDICARE FOR ALL at State level with Governors may be easier . . . |
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