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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:21 PM
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USAF Colonels Charged for Drawing Weapons on Blackwater Personnel
yeah boy, this outsourcing is a great idea. just wonderful.
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original-air force times

Editorial: Who railroaded officers?


On Sept. 16, two Air Force lieutenant colonels and a Blackwater USA employee had a showdown in Afghanistan that ended with one of the officers drawing down on the security contractor with his M4. In the aftermath, the Air Force charged the two lieutenant colonels with a variety of crimes that could send them to jail.

The investigating officer who conducted the Article 32 hearing concluded that crimes may indeed have been committed — but not by the two officers. In her report, Lt. Col. Leslea Pickle concludes forcefully that Lt. Col. Gary W. Brown and Lt. Col. Christopher R. Hall should not be prosecuted.

Pickle uncovered an array of offenses committed by others that include alleged attempts to bribe witnesses, apparent tampering with charge sheets and — most astonishing — a video submitted by the prosecution that purports to be from a security camera that captured the showdown. Pickle could not determine who made the tape but concluded there were discrepancies between the video and what witnesses said happened.

Pickle has called for a criminal investigation into the bribe attempts. She read a witness — an Air Force colonel — her right to remain silent when asked about her role in altering charge sheets. The witness refused to testify.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:24 PM
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1. So now we are prosecuting US Military over the crimes
of Blackwater consultants.

I hope they bring Blackwater down and charge all of the Officers of the company with Treason...
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:24 PM
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2. mercenary scum
it would have been a real shame if that colonel's gun accidentally discharged in the direction of the blackwater merc...i mean a real shame
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:25 PM
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3. Indeed it would have been....a real shame that is...
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:48 AM
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29. yes, it's a bit sad when mercenary murderers receive their ultimate reward...
As for their boss Dick-head Cheney, he's overdue in Reaper-ville.

K&R
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:31 PM
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4. IMPORTANT UPDATE!
sorry, but for some reason the first time i went to AFtimes it was a archived page. more better story here

gives some details about the incident, and what an asshole the Blackwater guy really was. this whole mercenary thing has gotta stop.
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Charges dismissed against officers in Kabul run-in with contractor

Staff report
Posted : Wednesday Apr 4, 2007 19:51:02 EDT

Air Force officials have dismissed charges against two lieutenant colonels accused of assaulting a contractor last year in Afghanistan, and an investigation has commenced into allegations the evidence used to charge them was manipulated, the service reported March 31.

Charges against Lt. Col. Gary W. Brown and Lt. Col. Christopher R. Hall were dropped “after careful consideration of all the evidence in the case, to include the Article 32 report,” according to a statement. The officers, who faced lengthy jail terms and abrupt ends to their military careers, were accused of assaulting Blackwater USA contractor Jimmy Bergeron on Sept. 19 during an altercation outside the Afghan Defense Ministry in Kabul.

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:53 PM
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11. hey should never been charged in the first place...Glad to see they
dropped the charges...:D
:patriot:
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 11:32 PM
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17. Disagree
The fabricated evidence and statements were enough to invoke an Article 32.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 11:53 PM
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18. I can see your point, but a proper investigation would have
exonerated them almost immediately.

Regardless, I'm just glad to see that there were no charges...:D
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 11:56 PM
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19. In the military system, the Article 32 is the primary investigation for charges on this scale
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 09:11 AM
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36. And someone is going to be procecuted for tampering with evidence, right?
I'm not holding my breath.
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:32 PM
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5. Lt. Col. Pickle?
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:22 AM
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24. I wonder if he knows
Colonel Mustard?

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:36 PM
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6. I'm surprised there isn't more friction (maybe there IS and we're just not hearing)
The mercenaries getting big salaries has GOT to be galling to the guys getting military pay.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:59 AM
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30. I don't think that would have played the least part in this issue. Not the
slightest.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:40 PM
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7. 'kay. Where's that freakin' thread about BW spreading to CA!!!!
All the defenders of private security were on that thread,...said BW wouldn't violate our citizens' rights because that behavior wouldn't be tolerated.

Now, BW is shooting at our military.

Will BW be held accountable? HELL NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LAWLESS CLAUSE IN THEIR CONTRACTS!!!!!

People just have to deny the vile and easy access to abuse,...to comfort themselves into the lions' den, I guess.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 11:22 PM
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13. I've been following this since it first hit the USAF grapevine
Been very interesting. Several things are clear at this point
- The BW guy is a raging asshole
- Somebody fixed the tape
- The USAF officers were clean
- The military justice system worked. I repeat...THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM WORKED

Other tidbits that are floating around out there include:
- All sorts of statements about the BW guy's past
- The BW guy was pulled out of the country and he did not testify for fear of being arrested.
- The BW guy has been kicked from BW (the people who run BW are big on integrity)
- The BW guy has been kicked from BW (the people who run BW do not like bad press)
- The BW guy has been kicked from BW (insert your own reason here)
- Senior officers are pissed at being made fools of (charges made based on false evidence)
- There is a lot of pressure to find out who fixed the tape (see above)
- The JAG who screwed up the charge sheet and other legal documents is toast (see above)

Overall its a happy ending. Have to see how some of the open issues turn out. I doubt anything will be made published beyond what has already been done.

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 12:58 PM
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38. This One?
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:42 PM
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8. military seems so corrupt
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 11:29 PM
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16. How so...
- The charges were leveled based on false evidence and testimony
- The Article 32 (sort of a preliminary hearing) showed the evidence to be bogus and there was some questionable paperwork on the charge sheets.
- The convening authority dropped the charges and an investigation has been opened into who tampered with the evidence.
- The sloppy legal work became moot with the dropping of the charges, but there may still be repercussions.

It doesn't get any better than that, even on Law & Order.



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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:00 AM
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31. "It doesn't get any better than that, even on Law & Order." Absolutely!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:47 PM
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9. What a bizarre story this is... is BW accountable to anyone?
I mean beyond the fact that if I were a soldier I'd be pissed as hell about what the Mercs are getting paid, do the Mercs follow a chain of command? Or are they just out there doing whatever the hell they want? Reminds me of the guy Stewart had on a few nights ago with the "prison" experiment where it only took a few hours for normally decent people to enjoy their position of power over others.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 09:49 PM
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10. BW is NOT accountable
they even have some kind of congressional immunity since they are a "private" company, iirc
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:08 AM
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26. Are their deaths in Iraq counted in the overall 'U.S. personnel' tally? n/t
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:14 AM
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27. No, they aren't. nt
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:18 AM
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28. I'll bet they're included in the 'insurgents killed' category! n/t
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 05:18 AM by bananarepublican
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 01:11 AM
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22. they will eventually start getting fragged
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:32 AM
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25. No, they are not. They are outside the chain of command. n/t
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:19 PM
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12. Based on the description,
it looks like Bergeron may have been an undercover operative and not just some run of the mill BW contractor.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 11:25 PM
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14. The officers should have been awarded medals
for "Bravery and Valour in the face of Assholetry"
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 11:26 PM
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15. Yes - Blackwater's the enemy in any Bush-Cheney Halliburton war. n/t
Edited on Mon Apr-09-07 11:54 PM by rec_report
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 12:00 AM
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20. Good for the Colonels. Too bad they didn't shoot.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 12:08 AM
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21. Glad to hear the Air Force guys were cleared--Blackwater is getting
to be some scary shit--a "privatized" army, without all the rules, regs and devotion to service that the REAL military enforces. There will be more stories of crooked dealings in the future, I'll bet--'cause it's all about money for them.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:00 AM
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23. the fruits of privatization--when blackwater thugs are
turned loose on the u.s. population, who will have the better weapons? blackwater or the local police?
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:18 AM
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32. Sheesh, it seems as though the JAG was a Rove Appointment
like his little bud Tim Griffin was a JAG in Iraq before getting his job placement as the U. S. attorney for the Eastern District of Arkansas.

I just hope they get to the bottom of this story and it gets reported.

Glad to :kick:& Rec...Off to the Greatest!

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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:20 AM
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33. k&r
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:56 AM
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34. Well, the US Govt. pays the Blackwater guys a lot more, so they'll side with them. nt
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:59 AM
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35. If they were sergeants instead of colonels... well, you know. nt
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:48 AM
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37. thanks for posting...
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