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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:36 PM Original message |
I will post some links to what Black folk are writing about Gates... |
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Howardx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. give it a rest |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Isn't that what you are doing. There are 1000 threads on this. I'm giving a Black POV |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. "The Black POV"? |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. A-black POV...my POV a POV OF A 40 year old black woman. Is that better? |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Yes. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Glad I could make you happy. Want fries with that? ROFL. |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. You really do enjoy being an ass, don't you? |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Look, read this...then we can walk away friends. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. I felt validated when Obama said... |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. Oh, I agree with you there, absolutely. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. I'm gonna PM you my number so we can chat. k |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Got it. Thanks. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
92. My problem is this |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I think the cop got angry because Gates called him a racist. I've said before |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #95 |
112. I've since heard the call that Crowley made back to dispatch or whatever |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. xultar said "a Black POV" not "the Black POV"... |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. She said "what black folk think" in her OP. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I am posting articles of what some black folk think. Did you read that part? |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Yes, I did. |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. What you did assume..... |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Oh, please. |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Sorry, but..... |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:37 PM Original message |
Shall we agree to disagree, then? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why do you say 'folk?' |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That is how I speak. I'm a commedian. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. not to me |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. I hear that all the time. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
57. I use "folk" all the time. |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. People use the colloquialisms they have learned. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
98. leftstreet, where I come from, folk say gay folk, straight folk, hispanic folk, white folk, |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's not a question of 'racist pigs' -- it's and issue of a racist system. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. That's one example out of many, many blogs and article out there |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I said I'd be posting more. Give a Sistah a break. |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You're not going to convince some people |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. I know. It is funny. You know what I noticed...there was a bandwagon on this |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
115. Tim Wise has been doing some good writing on this subject |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Invisible Dialogue on Social Class in the Black Community |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Police officers and professors are both solidly middle class. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:47 PM Original message |
So the cop didn't recognize someone from his own class? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:53 PM Original message |
Police officers and professors are both solidly middle class? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
75. Okay, Okay. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. They're solidly 'upper middle class?' That's even more |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #86 |
99. How so? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Missed that part. My bad. n/t |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
110. Professors really don't make that much... |
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fire lake (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. I disagree. Not EVERY TIME! Maybe 70% or whatever, |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
68. You honestly think a cop and a Harvard prof make the same money? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. The average, of course, is scewed by the top earners. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Gates is pulling in a lot more than $250k/year. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. How do you know? eom |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #85 |
100. Common sense. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #100 |
109. I hire a car and driver all the time... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #85 |
104. He has a driver, per police report. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Hired driver... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #76 |
106. No shit, Sherlock. |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. Wow, you are getting some shit, eh? |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. It's because I act like an asshole. |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I live in NJ, so I'm used to assholes I guess. |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
15. It goes beyond Gates, that's why all sorts of people are upset by this. |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. Who the hell are you to say white people can't be more outraged than black people? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. It seems to me that DU is just being DU. Some are perpetually outraged, others always skeptical. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. You know. You are right. Maybe that is what it takes. I'm being very narrow in my |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
19. Time and again we see threads at DU telling us how were are "way out there" in our reactions. |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
22. Judging from how your threads |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. I'd unrecc my own threads if I could. I give a rats ass about unrecc really. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. I used to think that way, too |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Just guessing (I haven't unrec'd xultar), but it could be that a lot of us have tussled with cops. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. OK. You got me. I'm white. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I didn't say that, did I? Shit -- it was said on this thread by someone else. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. I am sincere, but that was a joke reply...Read what I posted above...Link in post |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
23. Funny, I didn't realize you could tell "race" through a modem.. |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
79. On another forum I've been 'accused' of being black. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
36. *****ATTENTION***** I could give a rats ass about the unrec feature... |
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fire lake (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
41. Right on! The line about privilege speaks volumes... |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Actually, she's completely full of shit on that issue, and you make that point in spades. |
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fire lake (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Never tune people out because we can always learn from others! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Well said, fire lake, and welcome to DU! |
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fire lake (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Hey, so THAT'S what Aerosmith were saying in one of my fave tunes! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
89. All you ever really need to know can be found... |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
43. K and R |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. unreccomend...I'm going for the most unrecommends. |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
87. Lol! |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
48. Screw it, xultar. A lot of people are asking sincere questions of you, and you're pissing on them. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
72. We need to chat on the phone. How do I get my number to you? |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
49. Have You Seen This Yet ??? |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. That is true. But what scares me are the bruthas who aren't Gates. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Oh I Totally Agree... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
51. "I simply want to know the facts" |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. me too. After seeing new stuff come out. It is more class than race and more men |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Classism is the new racism... |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Which is why I can't figure out why Poor Republicans vote Republican. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Well, I think what you're seeing is the remnants of racism there. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. That shit don't make no sense. Why they vote for people who could give |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Fuck if I get it. Couldn't explain it past that if I tried. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Beats the hell out of me too... |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
53. give it a rest |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
81. On that note...play xultar off piano cat.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
56. As a woman of color, I get the distinct impression that you're |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. See, we can agree on that. I'm worried about my dad and my brother. Gates |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Agree on that, too, and he said so himself. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
97. I know when I got back from Australia, I could have eaten puppies I was so frustrated. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. My flight back from Europe was shorter and I felt like I was on acid. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
90. Oh God I hope so! |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
61. It may or may not be about race but the fact that he showed id and still got arrested in his own |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
94. 80% of me agrees with you. 20% of me that knows not to piss off a cop |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. I agree with that. |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #94 |
111. how do you know he went 'off on a cop'? |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
62. So, people should basically have an open mind and withhold judgment until the facts are known? |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. KillJoy... |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
82. ummm...forgive me for asking this, but... |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. That is soo true. I'd just assumed. But you're right. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. There's this thing in linguistics called "register." |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
88. um... "son of a police officer" |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. I see your point. But if that line weren't in there what would you think? |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #96 |
113. I agree with much of it, but totally disagree with the conclusion. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
103. Doesn't sound like this Boyce guy knows |
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Libertyfirst (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
107. The line about the Duke lacrosse team tells me everything I need to know about the author. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
114. I think you should probably start another "black folk" thread about the issue...nt |
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