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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 10:37 AM
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Kerry versus Gingrich on climate - historic watershed
in the debate.
Gingrich has taken the argument beyond the
denialists.
He has said, the problem is urgent, its time that we
decide whether "conservative" or "liberal" solutions
will work best.

Kerry looks pretty happy and he
should, because the republican icon of conservativism is now accepting our
framing of the issue.


both are talking about making the transition to
a low carbon world, and soon.
I predict this will now change the tone of the
republican pronouncements on the issue.
( I mean serious repubs, not blowhards..)
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 10:39 AM
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1. Greenman, thanks for the post, but make no mistake:
Gingrinch blows just as hard as any Repub.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 10:52 AM
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2. I don't think he's a good guy
I think he's been forced by the merits to accept
the global climate change model as the frame for
the debate.
He is arguing for a new converstaion, and a new model that will attack what he
is calling the "urgent" problem of climate, oceans and
species.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:52 AM
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5. You're right about it being great to see them buying into our frame for once! nt
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:11 AM
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4. Not at all...
He's one of their Blue Ribbon Champion blowers.

never forget his campaign to win the House in 1994: the man will say ANYTHING that enters his head to spin his agenda-at-hand. The only thing out of his mouth that can be trusted is the spittle.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:07 AM
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3. Thanks for this report.
Where is this debate happening? Are you watching? (Cuberat here without streaming capability)
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